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To: HarleyD
Ecc 9:5" For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. "

This was written before Christ but then how do we explain Matthew 27:

51 "At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53 They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and[e] went into the holy city and appeared to many people."

54 When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was the Son of God!”

This certainly shows the "many holy people who had died were raised to life."

I would gather the dead in the first quote is talking about the spiritually dead not physical as Christ talks in the Gospels. You know when he states do not worry about the first death(human body dies) but the second death(spiritual death or going to Hell).

30 posted on 11/03/2011 12:53:48 AM PDT by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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This was written before Christ but then how do we explain Matthew 27:

You don't have to go back as far as Matthew 27. There were many places where Christ raised people from the dead; the woman and her son, the Jewish leader and his dead daughter, Lazarus, etc. Paul raised the boy who fell out of the window in which he fell asleep. In fact you'll find some places in the Old Testament of people being raised from the dead (Elisha comes to mind). But none of these examples have anything to do with their final death. Even after being raised again, they all died again. They were raised to bring glory to God and to show God is fully capable of raising people from the dead.

And none of the people that were raised would I classify in the sense of "holy" as I take it you mean. They were ordinary people who did what God wanted them to do. Yes they were holy in God's eyes but not in the sense of some great saints. Does any of us know what the dead son did after he was resurrected? Or the Jewish leader's little girl? Or even Lazarus or the boy who fell out of the window?

I would gather the dead in the first quote is talking about the spiritually dead not physical as Christ talks in the Gospels. You know when he states do not worry about the first death(human body dies) but the second death(spiritual death or going to Hell).

Ecc 9:5" For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. "

For the living know that they will die (spiritually), but the dead know nothing (about dying), and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

Do you really think your analysis makes sense? I would suggest that those who were raised from the dead, Lazarus, the little girl, the boy sleeping in the window, all knew they would die again. And once dead, then comes judgment. For we certainly don't remember them except what is written by God.

33 posted on 11/03/2011 4:22:42 AM PDT by HarleyD
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