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Mormons: Whether We Should Hate Them or Not [A Shallow Yet Helpful Guide]
The Houston Press ^ | Nov 2 2011 | Pete Kotz

Posted on 11/02/2011 10:00:50 PM PDT by delacoert

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1 posted on 11/02/2011 10:00:53 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Sounds like the South Park episode...minus the dum dum dum dum dum..going on in the background.


2 posted on 11/02/2011 10:18:13 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: delacoert

Someone should print fliers to hand to these Occupy Wall Street people connecting ...........

- Obama to Wall Street. No political candidate has ever received more Wall Street money than Obama.
- corzine - democrats - Wall Street.
- several more examples ....

If enough of this is distributed in a non-confrontational way, it might just backfire on obamar and the democrats. These folks may not vote republican but they may find it more difficult to vote democrat.

Just a thought.


3 posted on 11/02/2011 10:23:32 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: delacoert

Must say I have never read a more accurate description of Mormon history, you got most of the highlights in LOL


4 posted on 11/02/2011 10:31:35 PM PDT by munin (Live free or die)
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To: blasater1960

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-mormons


5 posted on 11/02/2011 11:00:55 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most time a man'll tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear"--Open Range)
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To: delacoert

Sick article. I would no more hate Mormons because of this “history” than I would hate Spaniards because of Monty Python’s skits about the Inquisition.


6 posted on 11/02/2011 11:31:21 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: delacoert

Hate them? No. Pray for them, yes.


7 posted on 11/02/2011 11:49:39 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: AZLiberty

It’s a satire that’s actually attacking people that hate Mormons.

I have a feeling you wouldn’t “get” Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” either.


8 posted on 11/03/2011 12:18:44 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: AZLiberty

Freepers should take some time to listen to this informative interview with Tricia Erickson about a book she wrote on Mormonism. This is very informative.

It is the October 27th interview and it begins at 5.45 on the recording.

http://www.trunews.com/listen_now.htm

Topic: Rick interviews Tricia Erickson, a former Mormon, who discusses the beliefs and rituals of the Mormon religion. Tricia also shares her thoughts on what she believes the election of Mitt Romney as President would mean to our nation.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 1:54:01 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: delacoert; AZLiberty; JimRed

Disagreeing with Mormon doctrine and theology is not the same as hating Mormon people. That’s the kind of tactics liberals use. If you disagree with them you “hate” liberals. I guess it’s because of the fact that liberals generally not only hate conservatism but conservatives also.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 8:34:48 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: delacoert

Just responding to the headline: Why would I hate mormons? I do however loath mormonISM.


11 posted on 11/03/2011 2:40:02 PM PDT by svcw
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Ahh, my dear svcw, did you forget that; according to the many who are incapable of comprehension, that any who dare to disagree with the Restored® church’s doctrine must also hate those who follow it? It only follows no?

It’s really sad that so many have willingly bought into political correctness, that it’s no longer permissible to disagree with someone or something. It must be bigotry, hatred, etc. That’s the only “logical” reason why someone would have a “disagreement”.

Alinsky Rules for radicals #13.
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’...

“...any target can always say, ‘Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?’ When your ‘freeze the target,’ you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the ‘others’ come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...’

“One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.”

IOW, get your opponent to defend themselves from false accusations, taking them off the topic at hand.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 3:37:04 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: delacoert

That was brilliant! I laughed ‘til I cried. Thanks for posting it. And no I was not offended. We can take a joke, us Mormons.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:34 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Strategerist

“It’s a satire that’s actually attacking people that hate Mormons.”

Exactly right. I loved it.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 8:40:01 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: ReformationFan

“Disagreeing with Mormon doctrine and theology is not the same as hating Mormon people.”

Hmmmm. The Rev Jeffress and his flock like to condemn Mormons to hell which I think is rather hateful. I wish I had a buck for every time I have been condemned to hell on this site. I’d be rich.

Meanwhile, Jesus Christ is my Savior, and I look to Him for my salvation and judgement. Amen.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 8:43:54 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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It doesn’t sound to me like Jeffress wants Mormons to go to hell. Sounds to me more like he wants them to turn away from their false religion and to the true Jesus found in the Bible so that they will end up in heaven instead. It’s not loving to tell someone they’re about to drink milk when you know they’re about to drink poison instead.


16 posted on 11/03/2011 9:12:30 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Saundra Duffy; ReformationFan

Sandy you will go to hell with your eyes wide open if you wish.
No one can condemn you there, a soul goes with their eyes wide opened.


17 posted on 11/03/2011 9:18:23 PM PDT by svcw
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To: Strategerist

Who hates mormons?


18 posted on 11/03/2011 9:20:01 PM PDT by svcw
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“Who hates mormons?”

Anyone who has a disagreement with a Mormon about absolutely anything./sarc

It’s a very similar tactic to what contemporary liberals use:

Someone holds pro-life views on when human life begins, he “hates women!”

Someone disagrees with the Q’uran, he “hates Moslems!”

Someone believes marriage involves both a man and a woman, then he “hates gays!”

Someone believes Barack Hussein Obama’s policies are bad, then he “hates blacks!”

Someone believes Mormon doctrine is in error, then he “hates Mormons!”, etc.


19 posted on 11/04/2011 7:15:21 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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Meanwhile, Jesus Christ is my Savior, and I look to Him for my salvation and judgement. Amen.

“Elder Boyd K. Packer of the Council of the Twelve gave the following illustration to show how Christ’s atonement makes it possible to be saved from sin if we do our part. ‘Let me tell you a story.… There once was a man who.…incurred a great debt.…the day came, and the contract fell due. The debt had not been fully paid. His creditor appeared and demanded payment in full.… The debtor had a friend. He came to help.…He stepped between them, faced the creditor, and made this offer. ‘I will pay the debt if you will free the debtor from his contract so that he may keep his possessions and not go to prison.’…And so the creditor agreed. The mediator turned then to the debtor. ‘If I pay your debt, will you accept me as your creditor?’ ‘Oh yes, yes,’ cried the debtor. ‘You saved me from prison and show mercy to me.’ ‘Then,’ said the benefactor, ‘you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible.” —Gospel Principles, 1992ed, pp. 75, 77

“There is one crucial test of repentance. This is abandonment of the sin….The saving power does not extend to him who merely wants to change his life.…Nor is repentance complete when one merely tries to abandon sin....To ‘try’ is weak. To ‘do the best I can’ is not strong. We must always do better than we can....” —The Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 163-165

“And now, verily I say unto you, I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return, saith the Lord your God.” —Doctrine and Covenants, Section 82:7

Really now - How can the Jesusof Mormonism promise you forgiveness when he holds you accountable for every sin you repeatedly commit?

“This progress toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through that perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lord gave us. In his Sermon on the Mount he made the command to all men: ‘Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.’ (Matt. 5:48) Being perfect means to triumph over sin. This is a mandate from the Lord. He is just and wise and kind. He would never require anything from his children which was not for their benefit and which was not attainable. Perfection therefore is an achievable goal.”—The Miracle of Forgiveness, pp. 208-209

So really SD - where is your mormon Jesus in all of this huh? Mormon salvation depends upon the works of man - not the work of Christ.

Trusting in and following a fictitious Christ will result in a fictitious salvation, no matter how sincere we may be.

20 posted on 11/04/2011 8:24:31 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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