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To: HarleyD

Christians have taught and believed that the Sacrament of Baptism is how we receive regeneration for 2,000 years.

since the 16th century, some sects rose up to teach regeneration another way. they had a problem, what to do with this pesky “baptism” command.
their answer was to turn baptism into a matter of “obedience”. why? just because.

so much confusion reigns that it doesn’t matter what you think about it, Baptist or Presbyterian.

as for why no one understood this for 16 centuries, it doesn’t matter. it’s only to clear your conscience, so who cares?

makes sense to me.


343 posted on 11/06/2011 5:12:01 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Christians have taught and believed that the Sacrament of Baptism is how we receive regeneration for 2,000 years.

The method and mode of baptism was changed many times over the last 2,000 years. Would you agree with Clements that unless you are baptized you cannot be saved? The Catholic Church held this view right up until Vatican II. And at one time you had to be immerse or baptisted in three times (name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost). The Church did away with this requirement which is still required in the Orthodox Church. So strongly do the Orthodox feel about the matter that if you leave the Catholic Church and join the Orthodox Church you must be rebaptized.

And some other info from the same site:

My point is not to get into the gradular details of baptism. It is simply to show that, no, baptism has not existed in the same form for 2,000 years-regardless of what is taught.
345 posted on 11/06/2011 6:05:10 PM PST by HarleyD
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