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To: Belteshazzar
I do not speak my words, I put forth the words of YHVH and I let Him speak for Himself. I also have made no evaluation of any person, only that of religious doctrine per freeper rules regarding religious threads.

The doctrine you follow, which is the doctrine I left, says that the Mosaic laws are for Jews only and since according to YHVH, the Mosaic laws are attached to the Abrahamic covenant and are never to be separated, then if a doctrine casts off the Mosaic laws, it has cast off the Abrahamic covenant because it never accepted it to begin with. John 7:16 Jesus answered them and said, “My doctrine is not Mine, but His who sent Me." How does one reconcile religious doctrine that dismisses the terms of the covenant?

John 14 - the “if you love me” chapter says doctrine that loves YHVH does not cast off His doctrine for that of man.

50 posted on 11/07/2011 10:58:40 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

patlin, I see that you will not supply me with the “proper” translation of Genesis 6:5, and answer the question: Who is it speaking of?

What is the “proper” translation of Ezekiel 18:4? And, after that, answer each of the following questions Ezekiel poses after that:
Are you just?
Do you do what is lawful and right?
Have you participated in any pagan rites (”eaten on the mountains”)?
Have you ever lifted up your eyes to the idols of the house of Israel?
Have you ever defiled your neighbor’s wife/husband?
Have you ever approached (or been approached if you are a woman) a woman in her impurity?
Have you ever oppressed anyone?
Have you restored every debt?
Have you never taken what is not yours?
Have you always given bread to the hungry?
Have you always clothed the poor?
Have you never taken advantage of anyone by lending?
Have you never benefited from interest on your principle?
Have you always withdrawn your hand from iniquity?
Have you always executed true judgment between people?
Have you always walked in God’s statutes?
Have you faithfully kept God’s judgments?
If so, God calls you just.
And you will live.

Have you done all that? Not just in the last few days/months/years, but how about the first 49 years?

Are you just as God, the living God, the God of Israel, the Creator of heaven and earth defines just?

Or have you sinned?

Whatever you answer me is one thing. What you answer Him who reads every heart is another. And, remember your own quotation, God doesn’t change.

Are you just?


56 posted on 11/08/2011 9:44:04 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: patlin

patlin, I see that you will not supply me with the “proper” translation of Genesis 6:5, and answer the question: Who is it speaking of?

What is the “proper” translation of Ezekiel 18:4? And, after that, answer each of the following questions Ezekiel poses after that:
Are you just?
Do you do what is lawful and right?
Have you participated in any pagan rites (”eaten on the mountains”)?
Have you ever lifted up your eyes to the idols of the house of Israel?
Have you ever defiled your neighbor’s wife/husband?
Have you ever approached (or been approached if you are a woman) a woman in her impurity?
Have you ever oppressed anyone?
Have you restored every debt?
Have you never taken what is not yours?
Have you always given bread to the hungry?
Have you always clothed the poor?
Have you never taken advantage of anyone by lending?
Have you never benefited from interest on your principle?
Have you always withdrawn your hand from iniquity?
Have you always executed true judgment between people?
Have you always walked in God’s statutes?
Have you faithfully kept God’s judgments?
If so, God calls you just.
And you will live.

Have you done all that? Not just in the last few days/months/years, but how about the first 49 years?

Are you just as God, the living God, the God of Israel, the Creator of heaven and earth defines just?

Or have you sinned?

Whatever you answer me is one thing. What you answer Him who reads every heart is another. And, remember your own quotation, God doesn’t change.

Are you just?


58 posted on 11/08/2011 9:45:05 AM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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