He went through AA and NA but the programs have deteriorated and they don't really understand the causes. He says they are wrong calling it a disease. He could not accept that. Its a spiritual condition says author. JEsse says if they are implying its a disease there is nothing you can do for it. He has not drank or used drugs in 35 years, he does not have to go to the programs...he says that is an addiction in itself, having to go to the meetings. Only way he could get over it, he had to get out of those programs and found the key to the root of addiction, a spiritual awakening. He had to get down to the hatred he had which is the reason he needed to take drugs to begin with...Up From Down at Amazon, Barnes and Noble...or website... Up From Down.info
Oh, he didn't mention the letter or possession. It would have been nice to hear more. I think Ted didn't get going about the cause of addiction and answers until the end. Maybe he thought he was going to be on longer. Well, you are going to have to read the book. HE did say that since it wasnt a disease, once you get rid of the cause of addiction, you can drink in moderation without getting addicted. Intereseting.
Jesse is tellling a story about a rabbi who went into a store every morning and takes an apple and walks out. Then a salesperson who saw it every morning would tell people who said the rabbi was a good person, that he was a thief and not a good person. When the rabbi heard he went to the sales person and chatised him, saying he had an agreement with the store owner and now the salesperson ruined his reputation. The clerk said I'm sorry...what can I do to rebuild your reputation. The rabbi said take a down pillow and open it and throw the feathers up in the air, and then collect them all and put them back in the pillow....that is how hard it is to clean up your reputation.
I love that story. It really makes you think doesn't it?
Yes, abigail1, I really didn’t know how long I was going to be on but I am greatful for the time given.
Programs like AA and NA NEVER talk about possession at all. The few times I have heard it mentioned it is usually along the lines of “In the dark ages people used to think alcoholics were possessed”. It is a rare AA or NA that realizes that possession by a demon is at the root of alcholic or drug addicts difficulty in quitting.
In other words, these programs don’t even know what they are dealing with. Malachai was exactly right when he said it is abuse of drugs that opens a doorway into the soul for evil to enter..
This shouldnt be a surprise to Christians. After all, doesn’t scripture say that:
“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”
Ted Adamson
This book is available for free, and it has helped many thousands of people. It does not hold that addiction is a disease, but rather a spiritual malady.
Addiction is a life and death matter to me. IMHO, your effort to save souls (and sell books) endangers lives. Have a nice day.
” Its a spiritual condition says author.’
Like it or not, most things ARE.