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Catholic Caucus: Pro-life leaders slam abrupt closure of Irish embassy to Vatican
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | November 8, 2011 | by Hilary White, Rome Correspondent

Posted on 11/08/2011 2:14:41 PM PST by topher

ROME, November 8, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a move that came as a shock to Vatican observers last week, the Irish government abruptly announced the closure of its embassy to the Holy See. While the official word from both the Vatican and the Irish coalition government is that the move was not meant as a diplomatic slight, there is wide agreement among pro-life leaders that the move is a deliberate diplomatic insult and an attempt to move Ireland away from its traditional Catholic roots, which undergird the country’s strong pro-life laws.

The government claimed that the decision was made for financial reasons, but has since confirmed that the closure would save less than €700,000 a year, a drop in the bucket for a government that that has sent €30 million to UNFPA, the UN body linked to coercive abortion, sterilization and population control programs in China. Under the new arrangements, Ireland will maintain a nonresident ambassador to the Holy See and keep its Italian embassy in Rome open. Also to be closed are the Irish embassies in Iran and Timor Leste

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TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; embassy; ireland; vatican
Still has an Embassy in the United States and Canada.

Maybe there should be a movement by Catholics in the United States and Canada to contact the Irish government about this -- through the embassies and consuls in the United States and Canada...

1 posted on 11/08/2011 2:14:49 PM PST by topher
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To: topher

More anti-Christianity spreading around the world.

They al;l want to kill their children.

Kille the Church’s and eventually anarchy will reign.


2 posted on 11/08/2011 2:21:33 PM PST by Venturer
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This is what occurs with socialists, always. I’m not in a position to be able to buy much at the moment. If I were, not one would be of Irish origin. This is a deliberate slam from the anti-Christian weasels of the current Irish government.


3 posted on 11/08/2011 2:41:51 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: Venturer

I was stationed in Rome 1976-1979. My office in the Embassy was directly across the hall from the office of the U.S. Ambassador to the Holy See. IIRC, Henry Cabot Lodge was the ambassador. Many countries at the time maintained their missions to the Vatican in their embassies to the Italian Republic in Rome. I think it was in the mid 1980s that we opened a physical embassy in the Vatican. I’m sure that Ireland will seek to have their ambassador accredited to the Holy See. Roman traffic is bad, but not bad enough to keep the Irish Ambassador from visiting the Vatican regularly.


4 posted on 11/08/2011 2:52:11 PM PST by Ax
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Maybe the Irish government is in a movement to have the country go Islamic to get money from oil rich countries in the Middle East...

[ /sarcasm off -- I think -- there may be truth in my sarcasm ]

5 posted on 11/08/2011 2:53:46 PM PST by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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I see what is happening in Ireland as having happened elsewhere, for similar reasons. That is, where the Catholic church had and abused *political* power, over hundreds of years, it built up immense amounts of hatred against the church.

Ireland is and will remain predominantly Catholic. However, like Mexico and many nations before it, many will never get over how much they hate the church for what it did.

For example, some 30,000 children were sent to Catholic order workhouses in the 20th Century, where they faced humiliation, beatings and rape.

“A climate of fear, created by pervasive, excessive and arbitrary punishment, permeated most of the institutions and all those run for boys. Children lived with the daily terror of not knowing where the next beating was coming from,” Ireland’s Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse concluded.

The Catholic religious orders that ran more than 50 workhouse-style reform schools from the late 19th century until the mid-1990s offered public words of apology, shame and regret Wednesday. But when questioned, their leaders indicated they would continue to protect the identities of clergy accused of abuse — men and women who were never reported to police, and were instead permitted to change jobs and keep harming children.

Deeply implicated were The Christian Brothers and the Sisters of Mercy.

A government-appointed panel has paid 12,000 survivors of the schools, orphanages and other church-run residences an average of $90,000 each — on condition they surrender their right to sue either the church or state. About 2,000 more claims are pending. Irish Catholic leaders cut a controversial deal with the government in 2001 that capped the church’s contribution at $175 million — a fraction of the final cost.

But in the final analysis, entire families are now being raised to remember and despise what the church did to their parents, to never forgive the church for this, and likely to seek revenge against the church as they can.


6 posted on 11/08/2011 3:40:16 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I thought that this was very disturbing and sad.
I'm one to wait and see what the reaction of the Irish people will be. It ain't over yet.

The Irish may say and do nothing...they're such a passive, quiet, unassuming group of people, aren't they?
:o)

7 posted on 11/08/2011 4:42:58 PM PST by cloudmountain
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