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To: patlin
In Psalm 102, David is praying to YHVH. LORD is a tretragram for YHVH(Yahweh). After the destruction of the 2nd Temple, the Jews thought that saying Yahweh's name was part of what caused Him to bring the destruction so after that and to this day, orthodox Jews do not say His name out loud. In my CJB, they use ‘ADONAI’ in place of YHVH in Psalm 102, so to know what one is reading one needs to use a Hebrew Interlinear Bible.

Yes, it is referring to Yahweh, and yet Hebrews 1:10 quotes this passage in which Yahweh is the subject as referring to the Son. In Psalm 102:24 the person addressed is called “God”

8But of the Son he says,

    "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever,
   the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;therefore God, your God, has anointed you
   with the oil of gladness beyond your companions."

 10And,

    "You, Lord, laid the foundation of the earth in the beginning,
   and the heavens are the work of your hands;
11they will perish, but you remain;
   they will all wear out like a garment,
12like a robe you will roll them up,
   like a garment they will be changed.[a]
But you are the same,
   and your years will have no end."

This is a flat out lie that has been perpetrated by the hierarchy of Christendom since the late 2nd century. Think about this for a moment:

If the law that defines sin was nailed to the cross, then what power does YHVH have to judge anyone for something that doesn't exist?

Was there sin in the world before the Law of Moses; the Covenant as represented by the Tablets of Stone?

What was nailed to the cross was the bonds of commandments from ordinances. When one looks up that word ordinances in Greek, then taking it back to Hebrew, we find that both Greek & Hebrew define ordinances as religious dogma of man, NOT the Torah instructions of YHVH.

That is just a flat out misrepresentation of the Scripture with regard to the use of the word "ordinances":
In Deuteronomy 5:1 The Ten Commandments are called "My statures and all My ordinances"
In Ezekiel 20:19-21 The weekly Sabbath is called "My statures and all My ordinances"
In Levitcus 19:1-37 The Ten commandments and the ceremonial law are mixed together without distinction and called "My statures and all My ordinances"
Deuteronomy 5:1-6:25: two whole chapters that deal exclusively with the Ten Commandments and the following 5 terms are used interchangeably without distinction: "statutes", "ordinances", "commandments", "judgments", "testimonies".
Ezekiel 20 calls the first and fourth commandment, My statutes and My ordinances.

The new covenant is not new, it was proclaimed int he desert right before they crossed the Jordan. Yah’shua came to RENEW that covenant, not replace it

You say the New Covenant is not new. Jeremiah says otherwise:

 31 "Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah, 32not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD. 33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

Commandments in Hebrew is ‘davar’ which literally means ‘word’ NOT law as the doctrine of Christendom has defined it. His words are His house rules, the Constitution of His Kingdom, the same as we have for immigrants who come here. Want to be a citizen of the kingdom of the US, then you must agree and follow the rules, the Constitution, of the kingdom of the US, take the test & swear an oath.

The irony of your statement here is that your doctrinal position on the Mosaic Law would be similar to that of a contemporary who thinks we are still living under the Articles of Confederation. You are trying to live under the wrong Constitution.

Cordially,

40 posted on 11/11/2011 12:50:25 AM PST by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
Did you look up all those words for ordinances to see how the original spealls them? NO

Eph 2:15 G1378 dogma dog’-mah From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical)LXX related word(s) H633 esar H1881 dat H2942 teem H3791 ketav

Dt 5:1 H4941 mish-pawt’ From H8199; properly a verdict (favorable or unfavorable) pronounced judicially, especially a sentence or formal decree (human or (particularly) divine law

Ez 20:19 H4941 mish-pawt’ From H8199; properly a verdict (favorable or unfavorable) pronounced judicially, especially a sentence or formal decree (human or (particularly) divine law

Lev 19:37 H4941 mish-pawt’ From H8199; properly a verdict (favorable or unfavorable) pronounced judicially, especially a sentence or formal decree (human or (particularly) divine law

H4941 LXX related word(s) G92 adikema G226 aletheuo G746 arche G1342 dikaios G1343 dikaiosune G1345 dikaioma G1347 dikaiosis G1349 dike G1491 eidos G1785 entole G1995 epi strophe G2520 kath eko G2917 krima G2920 krisis G2922 kriterion G3551 nomos NO G1378 in LXX related words for your dogma & no H4941 in LXX related words in for G1378. Why? Becaue they do not mean the same thing. One is of divine nature, the other is man made and it was the man made that was nailed to the cross, not the divine.

who thinks we are still living under the Articles of Confederation. You are trying to live under the wrong Constitution

YHVH never changes, neither does His Torah. Yah’shua confirmed it in John 14

12 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13 And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.

15 “If you love Me, keep My commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.... 14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Word - Davar - Yah'ahua the Word made flesh, the Word which is the Torah - The Torah is the commandments Yah'shua said to keep because they are his, he spoke no new set of commandments and you can't keep the ones in stone if you say they were nailed to the cross. Yah'shua came to give full meaning to the Torah by instructing the right way to walk in them. That is what fulfill means, it does not mean to abolish.

Most importantly, it's all about glorifying YHVH as Yah'shua instructed. It is not about Yah'shua, it's ALL about his Father & His Father's commandments that were spoken by the Word, from Genesis to Revelation.

42 posted on 11/11/2011 2:31:29 AM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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