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Occult, occultist, occultism. Meanings ... why some churches consider occultism as something ZOT

Posted on 11/11/2011 2:47:13 PM PST by Love Wisdom Truth

Occult, occultist, occultism.

Occult meaning:
1. Of, relating to, or dealing with supernatural influences, agencies, or phenomena.
2. Beyond the realm of human comprehension; inscrutable.
3. Available only to the initiate; secret: occult lore. mysterious.
4. Hidden from view; concealed.

Why some churches consider occultism as something wrong/bad?

If there is something bad in occultism please show some evidence it is. Man made theories or hypothesis don't mean anything to me. As it is said “the tree is known by its fruits” so I would like to check the fruits, not someones theories or hypothesis that occultism is bad.

(I believe there are angels, and that there are supernatural powers, plus many other secrets in mother Nature to which access is not given just to anyone, but only to highly developed souls. Why? Because if access is given to us - the ordinary people to all those powers, we may use them to kill each other. If believing in all that makes one occultist, than I am an occultist. Jesus for example made out of 5 loafs of bread way much more to feed 5,000 people, He turned water into wine and etc..... IMO, He is one of the best occultists ever. Why, He didn't share that knowledge with everyone else??? There are some serious reasons for that, and the answer is: - We are not ready.)

Why occultism is bad for some (or most) churches? Thank you.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Other Christian; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: occult; occultism; occultist
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Equating the Miracle Power of God to “magic” and the occult...

Really?


41 posted on 11/11/2011 8:30:04 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: America always
Seer Stones? Divination? Secret Rituals taken from Free Masonry? Secret Symbols?

Stop me when the ignorant part comes up...

42 posted on 11/11/2011 8:40:55 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

43 posted on 11/11/2011 8:41:56 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Love Wisdom Truth; darkwing104; 50mm; Old Sarge; 230FMJ; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; ...
Why some churches consider occultism as something wrong/bad?

Why occultism is bad for some (or most) churches?

Why some trolls worship devils?

Why you post this? ZOT!


44 posted on 11/11/2011 9:14:01 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

IATZ


45 posted on 11/11/2011 9:25:42 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth; 50mm; TheOldLady
I didn't read your post. I still find joy in you inhaling the fire of Valhalla. Breathe deep, the gathering gloom...



watchlights fade from every room...




46 posted on 11/11/2011 9:26:50 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what? Channel surfing without a remote since 2001)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth; 50mm; darkwing104; stephenjohnbanker; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; Eaker; ..


So long, Love Wisdom Truth (Posting History)

Hat Tip to 50mm

Truly insane Satan-worshipping troll preaches the bad news of Evil personified and gets a hot, rude escort off the site





This is a Judeo-Christian, Conservative site, and don't you forget it


Thank you JoeProBono

FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

47 posted on 11/11/2011 9:29:57 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: glock rocks

Hmmm. A late lament.


48 posted on 11/11/2011 9:32:51 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

wow. Because its a worship of lies?


49 posted on 11/11/2011 9:33:06 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: TheOldLady

50 posted on 11/11/2011 9:33:41 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney & the Marxist Kenyan)
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To: bigjoesaddle; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

Ping to post 5.

It’s almost unbelievable.


51 posted on 11/11/2011 9:37:24 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: 50mm

Takes ya back, doesn’t it :o)


52 posted on 11/11/2011 9:42:01 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what? Channel surfing without a remote since 2001)
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To: bigjoesaddle

You know, aside from the conviction I have that she’s telling the truth, if someone was going to make up stuff about satanism, they’d make it sound more believable.

But I’ve heard stuff like this before.

I know of a couple people who were raised in situations of satanism and sexual abuse is part and parcel of it.

Another odd result of that is the high incidence of very aggressive, untreatable cancers among victims of satanic sexual abuse.

I know a young woman who experienced that and had repeated bouts of different highly aggressive cancers that eventually took her life. Her parents said that it was recognized by the medical community (oncologists) that there is this connection between ritual satanic abuse and virtually untreatable multiple cancers in people.


53 posted on 11/11/2011 9:43:03 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: glock rocks

Sadly, I go back further. The lyrics to Late Lament stuck with me for some odd reason. Maybe it’s because I’m odd.


54 posted on 11/11/2011 9:57:26 PM PST by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: 50mm

Odd? Naw. There ain’t no odd, cause there ain’t no normal. What we here at FR have in common is what unites us in cause.

If everyone were dyslexic, they I’d be normal, and they’d be odd. But it’s not a numbers game either... I can type.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! I bet I can use the backspace key better than anyone on this forum!

Now then, I guess I’d best go google Late Lament.


55 posted on 11/11/2011 10:09:19 PM PST by glock rocks (Wait, what? Channel surfing without a remote since 2001)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth

Read your Bible. Seriously.


56 posted on 11/11/2011 11:16:22 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I stand with Mr. Cain!)
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To: metmom
I just checked that out. I met a former priestess who became a devout christian. I would meet her at the Inn of the Dove coffee shop in the 80's. She was still scared as she recounted some of those types of stories. It was not that easy at times to become Christian. A lot is going on when they do.

Please Come soon Lord. The sick world we are in today.

57 posted on 11/11/2011 11:24:11 PM PST by johngrace (1 John 4!- declared at every Sunday Mass.)
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To: 50mm; TheOldLady
thanks, for the ping(s).
...a charred p.o.????...

58 posted on 11/12/2011 12:01:35 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: glock rocks
There ain’t no odd, cause there ain’t no normal.

That would make a great tagline.

I'm going to grab it for future reference.

59 posted on 11/12/2011 4:59:59 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Love Wisdom Truth
Nothing but ashes left. Even the ozone smell is gone.


60 posted on 11/12/2011 5:25:35 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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