“BillionGraves” Webinar to Highlight New Genealogy Technology [Lds obsession with the dead]

To: Tennessee Nana

Asinine, undocumented Mormon bashing continues on FR. Where do you get your info? Saying “I think” ruins your premise. Also - try to get a spell checker.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 1:58:30 PM PST by Paulus Invictus

To: Paulus Invictus

Where do you get your info?
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Im so glad you asked

Got some up-to-date stuff right here...

and from your own Mormon newspaper no less...

The Romneys: Like father, like son
Published: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:00 p.m. MDT By Linda and Richard Eyre, For the Deseret News

But as the campaign got more intense, all Romney staffers were pulled into New Hampshire, the site of the first primary, and I spent the cold and snowy winter of 1967-68 in Portsmouth, organizing “home headquarters” for Romney. In the meantime, George’s second son, Mitt, was on his mission in Paris.

When George started to decline in the polls, largely the result of his sometimes-too-blunt candor and saying things like “I was brainwashed about Vietnam,” the situation became desperate. We all knew that if we didn’t win in New Hampshire, the Romney campaign was doomed.

As George slipped in the polls, he chose to withdraw, Nixon was nominated and the rest is history. The country wasn’t ready for the directness and candor of George Romney. When Mitt came home from France, his father’s campaign was over. I wrote my thesis for my BYU masters program on “George Romney in 1968, From Front-Runner to Drop Out: An Analysis of Cause.”

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700143604/The-Romneys-Like-father-like-son.html

22 posted on 11/17/2011 2:03:01 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: Tennessee Nana

So weird. I remember that campaign well, yet have zero recollection of George Romney.

23 posted on 11/17/2011 2:37:28 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)

To: Paulus Invictus; Tennessee Nana

Would you like lds sites? lds publications? Oh, yea, that’s where the info comes from....

24 posted on 11/17/2011 2:38:35 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)

But one has to question the accuracy

I just looked did seven searches, not one had correct information on my family.

Oh, well. birth dates, places of death. etc.. wrong

25 posted on 11/17/2011 2:48:04 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)

Btw, 2 Lds proselytizers were killed on their bikes last week in Texas.

You hateful bigots reJOIce over this fact!

--MormonDude(I'll bet Saundra isn't!)

26 posted on 11/17/2011 2:48:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Such work is ~~hazardous business.~~ a BIG waste of time!

27 posted on 11/17/2011 2:50:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Tennessee Nana

Maybe its a good thing that the mormon god told Williard Mitt Romney to drive a Citroen DS when he was an LDS proselytizer...

#147 - 164

The Rules

Learn and obey all missionary rules.
Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
Don't debate or argue.
Center your mind on your mission.
Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
Cut your hair regularly.
Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
Be neat and clean.
Bathe frequently.
Use deodorant.
Polish your shoes.
Iron your shirt and business suit.
Arise at 6:30 A.M.
Study for 2 hours every morning.
Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
Exercise regularly.
Write in your journal regularly.
Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
Stay with your companion during all activities.
Do not go on road trips.
Do not leave your assigned area without permission
Do not watch television.
Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
Do not listen to the radio.
Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
Do not participate in musical groups.
Do not participate in athletic teams.
Do not sponsor athletic teams.
Do not engage in contact sports.
Do not engage in water sports.
Do not engage in winter sports.
Do not engage in motorcycling.
Do not engage in horseback riding.
Do not engage in mountain climbing.
Do not embark on a private boat.
Do not embark in a private airplane.
Do not handle firearms.
Do not handle explosives.
Do not swim.
Do not play full court basketball.
Do not play basketball in leagues.
Do not play basketball in tournaments.
You may play half-court basketball.
Never be alone.
Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
Be loyal to your companion.
Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
Pray with your companion every day.
Study with your companion every day.
Plan your work with your companion every day.
Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
Do not arise before your companion.
Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
Do not flirt.
Do not date.
Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
Do not telephone parents
Do not telephone relatives.
Do not telephone friends.
Do not telephone girlfriends.
Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
Take problems and questions to your mission president.
Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
Obey all mission rules.
Obey the laws of the land.
Do not get involved in politics.
Do not get involved in commercial activities.
Do not give any information about the area.
Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
Be courteous.
Provide community service.
Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
Your mission president must approve your housing.
Keep your housing unit clean.
Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
Maintain your health.
Eat a healthy diet.
Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
Follow the approved exercise program.
Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
Be immunized.
Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
Budget your money carefully.
Keep a record of what you spend.
Do not spend more than your companion.
Do not loan money.
Do not borrow money.
Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
Pay your bills before leaving an area.
Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
Do not waste money on souvenirs.
Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
Be a frugal photographer.
Do not accumulate excess baggage.
Obey custom laws and regulations.
Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
Do not drive without a license.
Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
Do not drive members’ cars.
Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
Use cars only on approved mission business.
Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
Be conscious of safety at all times.
Drive defensively.
Wear your seat belt.
Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
Know bicycle safety rules.
Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
Go directly to your new area when transferred.
Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

28 posted on 11/17/2011 2:52:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Tennessee Nana

Although #98 is all you REALLY need to know!

29 posted on 11/17/2011 2:53:21 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Is Ancestry.com affiliated with the Mormon data base?

My daughter and I went to the Mormon temple in Maryland and checked the microfische files (way back when) - fascinating. No charge and the people were very pleasant.

I have a very unusual family name so it did not require much effort. Have not investigated Ancestry.com.

30 posted on 11/17/2011 2:53:24 PM PST by sodpoodle (Loving America is not a fashion statement.)

To: Paulus Invictus

Asinine, undocumented Mormon bashing continues on FR.

I really HATE when that happens!!

Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).

Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).

Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).

Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).

Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses , vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).

President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).

James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).

President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).

More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).

President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).

President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

31 posted on 11/17/2011 2:55:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Oh, I was talking about the lds family search site.
It is their info that is incorrect.

32 posted on 11/17/2011 2:59:04 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)

IMHO the Mormon genealogy records are a treasure for non-Mormons, regardless of the LDS motivation.
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AH no...

the so called “records” are so full of errors that most reputable geneology socieites wont accept them for proofs of direct generational linkage ...father to son, daughter etc..when you want to join as a member...

And they refuse to change any errors..

I know...Ive tried...for years..

I have the government issued documents ...they have nada...

The pomeous jerks tell me that they have “the truth” and thats that...

BTW if your ancestor is in the Mormons IGI its because they have been dead dunked into Mormonism...

Thats why Jesus is in there and married to mary magdalaine...

along with Hitler and 1000s of his Jewish victims...

Now all Mormons...

Plus Obamas Mom Stan Ann Dunham in June 2008...

who was also “sealed” to her son Barry Dunham-Soetoro making him OFFICIALLY the first mormon president...

Is funny how this stuff back fires on the silly Mormons

LOL

33 posted on 11/17/2011 3:09:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: Tennessee Nana

If their "dead dunking"...wouldn't it stand to reason they dunked all ex-POTUS?

So B.O. wouldn't be the first "mormon" POTUS....

34 posted on 11/17/2011 3:14:05 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)

Is Ancestry.com affiliated with the Mormon data base?
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Yes it has been for a while

In their free trees they have the choice for LDS Baptism place date etc..

No ordinary site would have that...

When you find a site that looks great go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down to the bottom and check if they have anything about LDS

the info might be new to you and seem good but i wouldnt drastically xhange what you already have...

You might be deleting valid info and adding some bad...

35 posted on 11/17/2011 3:15:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: Osage Orange

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

good point...

But i wonder if all POTUS Moms were dead dunked ???

BEFORE the man was POTUS ???

BTW all 56 signers of the Declaration of Indepedence have been dead dunked...

36 posted on 11/17/2011 3:18:10 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: Tennessee Nana

Well it's all bunk dunking anyway.....

: )

37 posted on 11/17/2011 3:20:20 PM PST by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)

I would love to access their geneology database just to see ancestors as long as no one comes to the door or asks me to attend their cult meetings

38 posted on 11/17/2011 3:50:20 PM PST by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)

# 159 - Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.

Do mormons have a history of trying to cheat others in this way?

39 posted on 11/17/2011 5:36:01 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)

Can’t they build an app so they put toothpaste back into a tube and then give “a sense” of sentient thought and free will that is easily conned into changing a previous lifetime of adherence to another orthodox or doctrine? /S

Lacking so much proof of their previous existence they will conjure up any tool that can provide future generations of synthetic proof and a sense of belonging to someplace in the past.

Christians don’t spend a whole lot time dwelling on the past, lest they become “rut dwellers”.

We look forward to a full life enriched with all the gifts God may provide and our everlasting salvation, through Jesus Christ and our oneness with him one day...

40 posted on 11/17/2011 5:52:13 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)

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