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Auxiliary Bishop Says Communion In the Hand is a Calvinist Novelty [Ecumenical]
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 08/12/2011 | n/a

Posted on 11/21/2011 11:50:12 AM PST by Pyro7480

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To: netmilsmom; rzman21

Is Virginia considerd the East?


41 posted on 11/21/2011 12:35:48 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: TSgt

Probably because receiving in the hand is deemed by some to be less reverent. This can be due to cultural understanding....or as a result of the long history of receiving only on the tongue. A bit of a case CAN be made for that. To my mind, however, it is much more important to make sure that we understand WHO it is that we receive. A person who understand that this is really and truly the Risen Lord, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity naturally receives reverently, whether it touches the hand or the mouth first.

And, by the way, receiving in the hand took place in the early Church up until about the 10th century... if I recall correctly. St Cyril (see Early Church Fathers) even described how to receive ...teaching the people to “make a throne of your hands in which to receive the King [in Holy Communion].”

Personally, I receive both ways. My own focus is NOT on how I receive but my attitude toward HE Whom I receive....before, during and after reception.


42 posted on 11/21/2011 12:39:12 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RobbyS
"The priest is not an “officer of the Church,” but “another Christ:."

That is over simplified and will lead to error by both Catholics and non-Catholics.

"As an alter Christus, the priest is profoundly united to the Word of the Father who, in becoming incarnate took the form of a servant, he became a servant (Phil 2: 5-11). The priest is a servant of Christ, in the sense that his existence, configured to Christ ontologically, acquires an essentially relational character: he is in Christ, for Christ and with Christ, at the service of humankind. Because he belongs to Christ, the priest is radically at the service of all people: he is the minister of their salvation, their happiness and their authentic liberation, developing, in this gradual assumption of Christ's will, in prayer, in "being heart to heart" with him. Therefore this is the indispensable condition for every proclamation, which entails participation in the sacramental offering of the Eucharist and docile obedience to the Church." - Pope Benedict XVI 24 June 2009

During the administration of the Sacraments the priest acts "in persona Christi" (in the person of Christ). Note that in neither of these cases in the priest an alter Jesu.

43 posted on 11/21/2011 12:40:36 PM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: TSgt

>>I don’t and would appreciate the education.<<

I apologize. I meant we know Why. :)


44 posted on 11/21/2011 12:43:20 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom
Okay. Fine. You caught us.

You've discovered how Methodists take Communion.

45 posted on 11/21/2011 12:44:57 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Pyro7480

God bless Bishop Schneider!
^^
Amen!


46 posted on 11/21/2011 12:45:08 PM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl on the Cain Train)
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To: netmilsmom

I’ve been to many masses lately due to funerals. It often appears that tradition usurps scripture.


47 posted on 11/21/2011 12:45:18 PM PST by TSgt (whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive...it is the Right of the People to abolish it.)
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To: SumProVita
A person who understand that this is really and truly the Risen Lord, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity naturally receives reverently, whether it touches the hand or the mouth first.

I agree. I also think that a person whose understanding is hazy can more easily be led to misunderstanding if the mode of reception is more like that of ordinary food.

48 posted on 11/21/2011 12:45:31 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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To: WayneS

Iraq/Iran is considered the East.


49 posted on 11/21/2011 12:49:09 PM PST by rzman21
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To: WayneS

>>You caught us.

You’ve discovered how Methodists take Communion. <<

By pie?


50 posted on 11/21/2011 12:53:16 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: TSgt

>>It often appears that tradition usurps scripture.<<

Well, it’s how you see it. Catholics know that it’s not usurping, but a rich experience giving glory to God.


51 posted on 11/21/2011 12:56:51 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: WayneS

>>Is Virginia considerd the East?<<

It depends on where you’re standing.


52 posted on 11/21/2011 12:57:51 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I agree with you on that point. I also happen to think that the approval for reception in the hand unfortunately took place when several of the clergy were either ignorantly or disobediently following their own interpretations of Vatican II.


53 posted on 11/21/2011 12:57:59 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TSgt

How so?


54 posted on 11/21/2011 1:00:24 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

“”The priest is not an “officer of the Church,” but “another Christ:.””

The word would be heteros—another of a different kind. Like the heteros gospel in Galations.

The word could also be the Greek word we transliterate, “Antichrist.” In the sense of, ‘Instead of Christ.”

So referring to a man as, “Another Christ.” is inimical to the teachings of the New Testament.


55 posted on 11/21/2011 1:05:19 PM PST by TFMcGuire (Liberalism Is Hatred)
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To: Natural Law

I was referring to what “officer of the Church” means to evangelicals For them there is no special priesthood. The “minister,”is a functionary of the Church, pure and simple. If he has a calling from the Holy Spirit than he has a special charism, so to speak, but it is not owing to the Church but to God. The Congregation, also aided by the Spirit, only recognizes that charism. They ordain him more or less as the bishope ordains a priest, but the “office” is essentially different from that of the priest.


56 posted on 11/21/2011 1:07:07 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: WayneS

It appears there are some people so caught up in the ritual that they have forgotten the real meaning and purpose.


57 posted on 11/21/2011 1:09:12 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

A child who receives First Communion like a baby bird receiving food from his parent immediately knows how intimate a thing he/she is doing.


58 posted on 11/21/2011 1:11:13 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Yes it does.


59 posted on 11/21/2011 1:11:44 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: netmilsmom

At least we don’t take it from our hand...


60 posted on 11/21/2011 1:13:11 PM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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