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Auxiliary Bishop Says Communion In the Hand is a Calvinist Novelty [Ecumenical]
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 08/12/2011 | n/a

Posted on 11/21/2011 11:50:12 AM PST by Pyro7480

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To: maryz

Oh, I think the history of the ancient Passover is as well known as any other ancient practice, if not more so.

Unless one can provide adequate evidence that any ancient Jewish celebratory meal involved a host manually feeding guests, I think we’re on solid ground rejecting such a notion.


81 posted on 11/21/2011 3:05:32 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I think I may be thinking of multiple sacrifices of lambs....one for the family, one for the nation. Nevertheless, no evidence exists Jesus went around feeding the disciples one by one. :-)


82 posted on 11/21/2011 3:13:28 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: vladimir998

Yes, we can. Unusual events, as the foot washing you noted, were recorded. So accepting the claims of Jesus going about feeding his disciples like a mother bird to her chicks is certainly allowed, but it is lacking in Biblical evidence.


83 posted on 11/21/2011 3:16:25 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Pyro7480
I do believe that the NT says that they broke bread daily in different homes. Now were does it say that one person broke the bread and feed it to the others like a mother bird feeds her chicks.
84 posted on 11/21/2011 3:47:39 PM PST by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SumProVita
St Cyril (see Early Church Fathers) even described how to receive ...teaching the people to “make a throne of your hands in which to receive the King [in Holy Communion].”

Not the whole story:

There is more to this text than just the above, however. It also goes on to propose the following: “Sanctify your eyes with contact with the Holy Body . . . . When your lips are still wet, touch your hand to your lips, and then pass you hand over your eyes, your forehead and your other senses, to sanctify them.” This rather odd (or even superstitious? Irreverent?) recommendation has caused scholars to question the authenticity of this text. Some think that perhaps there has been an interpolation, or that it is really the saint’s successor who wrote it.

It is not impossible that the text is really the work of the Patriarch John, who succeeded Cyril in Jerusalem. But this John was of suspect orthodoxy. This we know from the correspondence of St. Epiphanius, St. Jerome, and St. Augustine. So, in favor of Communion in the hand we have a text of dubious origin and questionable content. And on the other hand, we have reliable witnesses, including two great popes, that placing the Sacred Host in the mouth of the communicant was already common and unremarkable in at last the fifth century.>/blockquote>


85 posted on 11/21/2011 3:49:04 PM PST by maryz
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; netmilsmom
I haven't. When/where has this happened?

Monarchy:
Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]
Monarchy: Friend of Liberty
CatholicTV calls for "Benevolent Dictatorship"?!

Inquisition:
Catholicism’s Top 10 – Part 1 (things that make the Catholic Church great)

86 posted on 11/21/2011 4:04:44 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: maryz

Which scholars have questioned it? I’m simply curious...particularly since receiving in the hand took place commonly until somewhere around the 10th century.

And....again.... I suggest that our focus really should not be on whether or not one receives in the hand versus the mouth....but rather on HOW to receive the King of Kings with utter adoration and love.

;-)


87 posted on 11/21/2011 4:10:18 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Rashputin

Wow!!! ;)


88 posted on 11/21/2011 4:12:31 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Have you noticed the increasing number of Catholics calling for Inquisitions and Monarchy here in America? “

Actually, no. You have noticed such? Where? When?


89 posted on 11/21/2011 4:13:41 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: maryz

>>Israelis and Arabs do — not all the time, but in circumstances of hospitality or friendship. (Ethiopians do too, I hear, at shared meals if there’s affection present.) <<

Another winner!!!!


90 posted on 11/21/2011 4:14:59 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: SumProVita

Some fringe Catholic groups.
The 9/11 truthers of Catholicism.

The MSM pulls out every nut and says “These are Conservatives!” or “These are Republicans”. The Usual Suspects on FR pull out these groups the same way.


91 posted on 11/21/2011 4:18:40 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Pyro7480

This Bishop is correct...now if the rest would just follow...


92 posted on 11/21/2011 4:49:06 PM PST by Gerish (Feed your faith and your doubts will starve to death.)
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To: Pyro7480

Communion on the tongue for me. And if you don’t believe me read the book, “Get Us Out of Here” by Maria Simma.


93 posted on 11/21/2011 6:18:23 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: netmilsmom

As good as a play, right?


94 posted on 11/21/2011 6:18:50 PM PST by RobbyS (Viva Christus Rex.)
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To: TSgt

How do you know.

I have seen renditions of the Last Supper with all the apostles kneeling and Christ giving them the bread on their tongue.

How do you really know?


95 posted on 11/21/2011 6:21:42 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
I have seen renditions

I've seen renditions of Jonah in the belly of a whale but I know it's true because it was explicitly articulated in the Bible. Nothing was explicitly articulated about how the last supper was served but thank you for proving my point regarding tradition usurping scripture.
96 posted on 11/21/2011 6:24:38 PM PST by TSgt ("Romney" means "rino cult" in Kenyan)
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To: SumProVita; Alex Murphy

Ahem...

Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2806973/posts


97 posted on 11/21/2011 6:26:24 PM PST by TSgt ("Romney" means "rino cult" in Kenyan)
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To: TSgt

So you will be very surprised when you find out that Christ actually did give them communion on the tongue, right?


98 posted on 11/21/2011 6:50:34 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TSgt

The concern for the form of communion does not discount the importance of its reason. In fact, I would hold that it is just the opposite. Consider you are a slave about to meet your king. Before being brought into his presence, wouldn’t the reason demand your attention to the form? The greater your love for your king, the greater your desire to come into his presence in a way that reflects that love. No detail seems unimportant when you consider his majesty. Hence, I think, the bishops point on Calvin (or perhaps better Zwingli).


99 posted on 11/21/2011 7:35:36 PM PST by WhoHuhWhat
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To: TSgt
Ahem...

Catholic Prophecy [Why some Catholics anticipate the return of Monarchy] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2806973/posts

I forgot about that one - thanks!

100 posted on 11/21/2011 7:40:45 PM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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