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To: Recovering_Democrat

I think that we can agree that no one on this forum has bothered to wade into the Greek or the Mathean Hebrew which is where striving for precise interpretation ought to be done. Do all of the gospels use the same verb and how is this verb or these verbs correspond to the Hebrew through the Septuagint? What verbs are present in the other references to the Mass in the New Testament? Are they the same as the ones used in the Synoptics? What of the multiplication of the loaves which are NT types of the Blessed Sacrament? All this would be interesting, but given that the Catholic understanding is that the Apostles have just been made proto-Bishops (who, so far as I have know, never in the Catholic tradition received while kneeling), a moderate to large expenditure of time depending on your command of the relevant languages and the tools at hand. I have Bibleworks, Hatch and Redpath, and Shem Tov’s Hebrew Matthew on hand, and I have an ok knowledge of Greek and a knowledge of Hebrew that will suffice with a fair bit of effort, so I am probably better equipped than most, but given the proto-Bishop side of things, I think it not worth the four to six hours to just do the Gospels well. What would need to be done to reach any useful conclusion would probably take me a good 20 hours and include some early patristic material as well. It also wouldn’t hurt to actually document what we know about “normal cultural practice.” If you care to do all this and present this leg work, I will eagerly read your argument and your conclusion. As it stands, I am not in a position to agree to much of anything, and will content myself by asking that the Martyrs of Gorkum intercede for us all.


121 posted on 11/22/2011 3:27:58 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus

You take a great deal of time to say basically it isn’t that important to you. Fine.

I am content with my position, the common sense position.


122 posted on 11/22/2011 4:08:36 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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