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To: tedbel
Whether the threat is real or not, there's a great worry among the less religious that Evangelicals or to a lesser extent Conservative Catholics (Brownback/Santorum), are going to push for a theocracy.

Reality is that in my experience, there are only two issues, sometimes three where that is the case. Abortion and gay marriage. Sometimes gambling (which I have no problem with, many churches have Bingo and Vegas Tents), but that issue has strange bedfellows.

I never use religion when arguing abortion. I call it murder for convenience. Atheists oppose murder. As far as gay marriage goes, I'd actually like to see government separate from marriage. If two adult homos want to call themselves something, I don't care. I just don't want to sanction it. Other than that, leave the kids alone.

I don't think that's too much to ask.

7 posted on 11/23/2011 8:22:52 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Darren McCarty

Ridiculous. It has nothing at all to do with Jesus. They voted for democrats and Obama who professed to be a Christian since the beginning.

They don’t trust republicans for the same reasons blacks don’t trust republicans. The democrats have fooled them into thinking the republican party is racially aligned against them and we’re a bunch of racists. It’s a subconscious thing.


8 posted on 11/23/2011 8:28:25 AM PST by bigdirty
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To: Darren McCarty
Whether the threat is real or not, there's a great worry among the less religious that Evangelicals or to a lesser extent Conservative Catholics (Brownback/Santorum), are going to push for a theocracy.

Ironically, Judaism is actually a Theocratic religion. Its fullest expression is a national polity in the G-d-given Homeland governed by a system ordained by G-d. Even in the diaspora Jews lived in self-governing autonomous Theocratic communities until the "enlightenment" (and were better off--there were no "secular Jews").

Even today ever Orthodox Jew lives in a sort of invisible Theocratic "hamster ball" that goes whereever he goes. The one and only legitimate concern for Jews is that the host nation and government not attempt to interfere with this internal portable Theocracy. The commitment to absolute religious freedom and secularism for its own sake is not a traditional Jewish value at all, but a creation of the "enlightenment."

45 posted on 11/23/2011 9:41:31 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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