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To: CynicalBear
Kissing the relic, which is encased in an ornamental box, is believed to help barren women conceive and heal other ailments.

Lots of superstition permeates Catholicism.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

122 posted on 11/26/2011 6:46:01 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; Judith Anne; MarkBsnr; Cronos
Kissing the relic, which is encased in an ornamental box, is believed to help barren women conceive and heal other ailments.

Lots of superstition permeates Catholicism.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.


Funny, in your exchange above, that you should so completely overlook the obvious. What if the thing hoped for was pregnancy or a healing of an ailment? Remember that "faith," as described in Hebrews, was not referring exclusively to "faith in Jesus" and that "faith," as described by Jesus, was not something that referred exclusively to religiously-oriented matters.

The above quotes are also a pretty good illustration of the following:
I'm spiritual.
You're religious.
He's superstitious.

127 posted on 11/26/2011 6:56:52 AM PST by aruanan
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To: metmom

metmom says: “Lots of superstition permeates Catholicism.”

Your odd apparent antipathy to the True and Universal Church has you posting odd things like the above. Since this thread is about a RUSSIAN ORTHODOX event, why? Perhaps spiritual blindness? Try prayer, it helps. Here, let me suggest one for you:

My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


128 posted on 11/26/2011 6:58:08 AM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: metmom
Lots of superstition permeates Catholicism.

No Catholics involved in the article; this concerns a relic of the Greek Orthodox church making a visit to Russian Orthodox believers. You did read it, right?

Most of the monks on Mt. Athos, where the relic came from, seem to think the Pope is the antichrist. At least, that's what some of them said when he visited Greece a couple of years ago. Doesn't sound very "Catholic" to me. Sounds a lot like the Westminster Confession.

134 posted on 11/26/2011 7:06:50 AM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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