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To: Colofornian; boatbums; the_Watchman

Thanks for the chart. The authenticity of a church is not based upon formal transference of office, but manifest faith which corresponds to Scripture, which itself was established as Divine due to its supernatural qualities and effects and attestation and progressive self-conflation.

Thus the Christian faith was a rebellion against those who sat in the seat of Moses, which had a legitimate position but not assured perpetual infallibility, out of which both Rome and Mormonism operate out of, and self-define themselves as uniquely being the OTC.

The faith that Christianity replaced was one which depended upon conflation with the then-established Scriptures (which were est. as being divine without an assuredly infallible magisterium) and the manner of supernatural attestation it reveals Truth being given in relation to its claims. And thus Scripture became the standard for obedience and for testing truth claims. (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Bible/2Tim_3.html#Partial)

As regards unity you may want to see: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/search/label/Blueprint%20For%20Anarchy

http://contra-gentes.blogspot.com/2008/04/doctrinal-chaos-argument-one-of.html

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2009/12/special-pleading-of-sola-ecclesia-ists.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2010/05/patrick-madrid-is-evil.html

http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2010/07/vicious-circle.html

http://www.the-pope.com/wvat2tec.html

As regards hindering Bible reading: http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Ancients_on_Scripture.html#Supplementary


118 posted on 12/09/2011 5:50:17 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: daniel1212
As regards hindering Bible reading:

Whether religion or politics or whatever; if SOMEone tells you NOT to read, or see or listen to someone or something; you can pretty well bet that they want to CONTROL you in some way.

126 posted on 12/10/2011 2:07:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: daniel1212
As regards unity you may want to see:

I'm a MORMON ...
 
 
 

http://www.affirmation.org/

127 posted on 12/10/2011 2:10:25 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: daniel1212; Saundra Duffy
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2010/05/patrick-madrid-is-evil.html

The way you can tell is that, while serving the Church, he actually wants to feed his family too. Anybody who tries to do something for the Church and seeks to get remuneration for the fruits of their labor is just a huckster. This is one of the more common memes one hears from the Truly True spectrum of Reactionary Catholicism. And one of its most ardent proponents is self-declared Expert on the Problem of Protestant Converts, Janice Kraus. Madrid isn’t a convert, of course. But he helps make converts and he is dangerously open to the idea that converts–especially Evangelical converts–are a good thing, if you please, and not the plague and scourge that Kraus believes them to be. Because of that, there is only one rational conclusion: he’s given his life to Catholic evangelization for no other purpose than filthy lucre. Indeed, Janice declares Madrid guilty of nothing less than simony.

Yeah...

This is what we get from MORMON, Inc. as well.

Right Sandy??

128 posted on 12/10/2011 2:14:40 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: daniel1212
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2009/12/special-pleading-of-sola-ecclesia-ists.html

A favored argument against Sola Scriptura frequently used by our friends in the Roman Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church is "Just look at Protestantism! It's a mess, of 22,000 25,000 30,000 33,000 58 gazillion denominations!"

Yeah; we get this from MORMON, Inc. as well.

Right Sandy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

129 posted on 12/10/2011 2:18:10 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: daniel1212; Saundra Duffy
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2010/07/vicious-circle.html

Roman Catholics will tell us that we need to consult the Magisterium in order to know what Scripture is, to understand it and to settle the various debates over its meaning and interpretation. But when we ask them why we should believe the Magisterium has the authority to establish the canon and produce the correct interpretations of Scripture, we are often treated to a series of Scriptural proofs, which presuppose the Scriptures are clear and authoritative.

Dang!

I'm beginning to think that MORMONism is re-packaged Catholicism!

Right Sandy!!?

130 posted on 12/10/2011 2:21:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: daniel1212
It makes a thinking person wonder.
 
Indeed it does...
 
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2011/12/dome-of-rock-inscriptions-why-no.html
 
Right Sandy?
 
Oh..
Wait...
nevermind......

131 posted on 12/10/2011 2:27:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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