Yes, without the authority of the Church.
Posted on 12/08/2011 2:01:52 PM PST by OneVike
So you calling someone a Pharisee is rich as well...HaHaHa...
Apparently you haven’t studied the scriptures enough to know what a Pharisee is..
>>I know enough to know that you fit the bill. :)
That comes from the Catholic religion which calls itself the Church...
Certainly the Hebrew scriptures were available as well as the writings of the NT authors...
The early church fathers accepted that scripture as completely authoritative not to mention the likes of the Apostle Peter...
How many time did Jesus say, Is it not written, or something similar...
They had exactly what God wanted them to have...
Yes, without the authority of the Church.
Not true. Otherwise Why does it not read Faith comes by reading the word and reading the word. If the Bible speaks alone this would be faith from reading only.
Romans 10:17
King James Version (KJV)
17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Which mean it is by authority of the apostles and apostolic succession by the Early Church. If they argue about scripture it is among their authority as bishops and priests without saying it. They already knew what they all believed in authority of scripture.
It was read from scrolls so no one could make a mistake like your making. Someone with authority. This was the early belief of the early Fathers.
"The liars, then, in reality are not those who for the sake of the scheme of salvation conform, nor those who err in minute points, but those who are wrong in essentials, and reject the Lord and as far as in them lies deprive the Lord of the true teaching;
who do not quote or deliver the Scriptures in a manner worthy of God and of the Lord; for the deposit rendered to God, according to the teaching of the Lord by His apostles, is the understanding and the practice of the godly tradition.
"And what ye hear in the ear " -- that is, in a hidden manner, and in a mystery (for such things are figuratively said to be spoken in the ear) -- "proclaim," He says, "on the housetops," understanding them sublimely, and delivering them in a lofty strain, and according to the Canon of the truth Explaining the Scriptures;
for neither prophecy nor the Saviour Himself announced the divine mysteries simply so as to be easily apprehended by all and sundry, but express them in parables."
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I often think of the early saints who went off to evangelize pagan territories, risking mightily simply by dint of being outsiders - meek but courageous - unafraid, but not strident... aware that what they would preach rubbed 180° against the old rules.
Yet somehow they they pulled it off.
If you had a Bible you were very lucky (they were few and far between).
What would a book written in a foreign language mean to those illiterates?
I would imagine the spirit and the virtues (examples) of the evangelizers being paramount. The key points about loving thy neighbor, forgiveness, turning the other cheek must’ve been shockers and rubbed against everything the “savages” knew for a fact. “You hit me, I hit you back!” - even till this day is the default attitude.
The Holy Spirit... not Bible Class. A more powerful magic (a stronger voodoo). An awakening, an awareness, still far from refined or genteel, probably still impossible to extend to outside enemies, but gradually accepted by some within the clan.
Then some miracles... healings...
In those early days the Bible was written in the evangelizers’ heart.
The lesson gradually learned was that Morality trumped knowledge. Good was wiser than “smart” or “crafty.” Forgiveness stronger than revenge. Everything got turned upside down, yet made more sense and felt better to boot.
And centuries would have to pass before those squiggles on parchment came into the picture.
My suggestion is to think it out like a movie... and imagine an evangelizer going into the forest of that Germanic tribe at the beginning of the film “The Gladiator”.
have you read or heard of the book “A Weed In The Church” by Scott T. Brown?
I thank you for this post, still think you have gone too deep with the concept.
But it did make me question what people think of when they hear the word Bible. For many of us the first thought is the printed Bible or delivery system. The other thought that will slowly come to mind is the Bible is really the contents.
I do remember a sermon titled “Where is your Bible.” I felt proud because I knew it was by my easy chair where I had opened it two weeks before. Now I have to go “ouch” because I know it should be internalized.
The topic of the book is about how the church does youth ministry...is it Biblical.
“Are you a minister? If So what denomination are you affiliated with?”
I am not a minister as in a full time position but have taught at several churches over the years...I was offered a full time position at one church as a youth pastor, but I turned that down. The churches that I have taught at include Assembly of God, Christian Missionary Alliance, and Baptist...but I am kinda like you in that I am more of a freelance teacher. I also have some ties to the Evangelical Free Church...my wife used to attend there...and I know several people at the local one and appreciate visiting their services on occasion. We currently attend a Baptist church but I am working out details with an Assembly of God church that wants me to teach for a one to three month period of time. Most of the time I am brought in to teach on Creation/Evolution or Christian Worldview.
That's about as clear a statement of Bibliolatry as can be made.
I'm curious if you meant this with a sarc tag or seriously?
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