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"The Shroud is not a fake" (Scientists say there is no way to falsify or duplicate it)
Vatican Insider ^ | December 12, 2011 | MARCO TOSATTI

Posted on 12/14/2011 11:10:27 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 12/14/2011 11:10:29 AM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping


2 posted on 12/14/2011 11:11:26 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Swordmaker

Ping!


3 posted on 12/14/2011 11:12:54 AM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Something new to bow down to and worship...Satan is really good at his job


4 posted on 12/14/2011 11:17:42 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: NYer

What you folks need is.....MORE GRANT MONEY!!!!


5 posted on 12/14/2011 11:19:11 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RnMomof7

Huh??????


6 posted on 12/14/2011 11:20:15 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RnMomof7

No one will worship this.No more than any other historic artifact.


7 posted on 12/14/2011 11:20:15 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: SumProVita

I didn’t get it either.
You could say the same about the Bible.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 11:23:36 AM PST by getitright (If you call this HOPE, can we give despair a shot?)
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To: Sacajaweau

WHY would grant money be needed?


9 posted on 12/14/2011 11:25:09 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: RnMomof7
10-4. Idol worship is rampant. It is not just worshiping some pagan carving. This idol worship can be anything that you value above God. Money, stuff,cars, TV stars, movie stars, sports people. ALL that is idol worship. And deadly wrong.
10 posted on 12/14/2011 11:26:40 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The End of Days draws near. In this time, you should be drawing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.)
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To: RetiredArmy

BUT...I believe this was primarily a CHRISTIAN topic...and I don’t know ANY Christians who WORSHIP idols. Perhaps you are confused?

Now, there my be many who call themselves Christians and who do worship money, prestige, etc......but that’s another topic.


11 posted on 12/14/2011 11:30:21 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer

The Shroud is not central to my faith so it doesn’t matter to me either way. If the science says it’s not authentic, it doesn’t bother me because I still believe in Christ every bit as much but if it is somehow proven authentic, all the greater glory to God.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 11:30:49 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: NYer; verga

Interesting.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 11:39:10 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: RnMomof7

...Satan is really good at his job.

Appears he’s done reasonably well with you.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 11:39:20 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: RetiredArmy

While I would certainly welcome the fact this object is a genuine burial shroud of Christ, the object itself should not be held up as holy or something to be venerated. Is not the root of Christianity salvation through faith alone? Not good works, not scientific proof, but the simple act of faith. As Jesus is quoted “who soever BELIEVE in me...” not “Who soever, when confronted with scientific evidence...”

Many ‘believers’ often make the mistake of venerating or even worshiping objects (Christ’s image in a piece of burnt toast, some ‘weeping’ statue, a saint’s bejeweled skeleton in a cathedral nave) when clearly God has forbidden such idolatry.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 11:39:45 AM PST by HonorInPa
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To: NYer

The only thing cooler than Shroud of Turin (SOT) threads are the threads about intelligent life on other planets.


16 posted on 12/14/2011 11:40:18 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Why did you bother to read the article?


17 posted on 12/14/2011 11:40:44 AM PST by jrd
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To: NYer
It's as miraculous as the cape of Juan Diego: a perfect imprint of Our Lady of Guadalupe.
Living miracles.

The Shroud shows us the face of Jesus, his beard, nose, closed eyes, all his wounds, including the back because of the imprint on both sides of the cloth, with his hands folded over his lower belly. All his wounds.
It could be duplicated because many people then were scoured and crucified; however, NO ONE but Jesus had the Crown of Thorns...and that also shows on the Shroud. That was unique.
The Shroud has not deteriorated, as iy normally would.
The Bascilica has a short silent DVD explaining the Shroud. Amazing.
The Shroud comes out of its place for public once every 20 or 25 years.

18 posted on 12/14/2011 11:43:04 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: traderrob6
As a devout Christian, I rather agree with his position. Anything that takes our attention away from God himself is a distraction - often a temptation from Satan.
19 posted on 12/14/2011 11:43:25 AM PST by HonorInPa
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To: jrd

Go back to your room. You are as blind as a bat.


20 posted on 12/14/2011 11:44:27 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The End of Days draws near. In this time, you should be drawing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.)
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