[SharpRightTurn]

“Would CoC members affirm the content of the Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed? What statements, if any, would be denied?”

I haven’t studied those creeds, Lee. They may be well thought-out formulations for all I know. But I see no reason why I shouldn’t just stick to the scriptures themselves. I don’t see how anything else can improve on God’s perfect revelation.

[Salvation]

Nicene Creed
I believe in one God, the Father almighty,     maker of heaven and earth,     of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,         the Only Begotten Son of God,         born of the Father before all ages.     God from God, Light from Light,         true God from true God,     begotten, not made, consubstantial        with the Father;         Through him all things were made.     For us men and for our salvation         he came down from heaven,         and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate         of the Virgin Mary,         and became man.       For our sake he was crucified       under Pontius Pilate,         he suffered death and was buried,         and rose again on the third day         in accordance with the Scriptures.     He ascended into heaven         and is seated at the right hand of the Father.     He will come again in glory         to judge the living and the dead         and his kingdom will have no end. I believe in the Holy Spirit,         the Lord, the giver of life,     who proceeds from the Father and the Son,     who with the Father and the Son         is adored and glorified,         who has spoken through the prophets. I believe in one, holy, catholic,      and apostolic Church.     I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins         and I look forward to the resurrection         of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.

[Cronos]

the thing is that the creeds encapsulate the core beliefs. We all agree that as humans we are open to flawed interpretations -- and this was apparent in the early years when people were arguing over the divinity of Christ, etc. the Nicene creed effectively encapsulates what scripture has said about these core matters.

In the tenets are the common Christian beliefs in the Trinity, the divinity of Christ, the incarnation and sacrifice.

Those that deny one or more of these tenets are really not Christian -- you would agree with that, correct?

Lee and I will argue about a lot and tell each other that they are wrong on some matter or the other but we know that we have some basic common beliefs.

it's common ground, the way I see it -- look, if you and I believe these common points, we have SOMETHING that is in common, which would be unlike a conversation either of us would have with a Hindu say.