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To: Tennessee Nana

Incorrect. God only condems homosexuality. There is no scripture that forbids having more than one wife.


18 posted on 12/20/2011 2:20:34 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol
There is no scripture that forbids having more than one wife.

Sorry; but MORMON 'scripture' does EXACTLY that!


 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


24 posted on 12/20/2011 3:02:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: taxcontrol; Tennessee Nana
There is no scripture that forbids having more than one wife.

Hmmm...I guess God, then, had no "standard" to hold Solomon accountable to, then...based upon your supposed solid searching of Scripture??...Why then was God able to assess Solomon? and then conclude to Solomon...?

3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray. 4 As Solomon grew old, his wives turned his heart after other gods, and his heart was not fully devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been. 5 He followed Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and Molek the detestable god of the Ammonites. 6 So Solomon did evil in the eyes of the LORD; he did not follow the LORD completely, as David his father had done...9 The LORD became angry with Solomon because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice. 10 Although he had forbidden Solomon to follow other gods, Solomon did not keep the LORD’s command. 11 So the LORD said to Solomon, “Since this is your attitude and you have not kept my covenant and my decrees, which I commanded you, I will most certainly tear the kingdom away from you and give it to one of your subordinates. (1 Kings 11:3-6, 9-11)

Why? I'll tell you why. Here, read Deut. 17:17:

17 He MUST NOT take many wives, or his heart will be led astray.

#1 How long have you had that problem with the Biblical injunction, "Must not" Taxcontrol?

#2 Note that if one of the above happens, the other (an astray heart) WILL kick in.

#3 Are you trying to tell us that Solomon didn't know anything about Deut. 17:17? (Well, no matter; apparently, you, like Solomon, have ignored it)

Please TaxControl, don't export ignorance with your feigned absolutes.

Oh, and btw, if you look very carefully at Lds polygamous history, you'll find that hundreds of Lds men married sisters. Guess what? There's a Biblical injunction against that, too!

18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living. (Lev. 18:18)

And, furthermore, since Mormons believe all women are literal spirit sisters from the pre-existence, Lev. 18:18 should have applied to the Mormon mindset as well for ALL plural marriages. EVERY SINGLE Mormon who believed in the pre-existence should have presumed that when they took another wife -- no matter the family heritage -- that they were breaking the code of Lev. 18:18 (in addition to the Book of Mormon!)

28 posted on 12/20/2011 4:27:26 PM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: taxcontrol; Tennessee Nana
There is no scripture that forbids having more than one wife.

If your boss at work gave you an "ideal guideline" on an important policy
-- but it was one that didn't include fine-tuned legalistic "don'ts" components (but did include a couple of generic don'ts)
-- yet emphasized this is the ONE thing you are "to do" on this given policy...

Wouldn't you conclude that if you broke away from that guideline...
...because you felt "outs" existed due to lack of binding constraints & constrictures (lack of "don'ts")...
...wouldn't you be militating vs. the direct, clear, intentional policy set forth?

Let's look at our Lord's "guideline" on marriage, shall we?

...A MAN will leave his father and mother and be united to his WIFE, and the TWO will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer TWO, but ONE FLESH. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” (Jesus, Matthew 19:5-6)

24 That is why A MAN leaves his father and mother and is united to his WIFE, and they become one flesh. (Gen. 2:24)

I didn't see plural men or plural wives in those two passages? (Did you?...You able to discern non-existent specific numbers in other passages)

I didn't see four-becomes-one as an option available in those two passages. Do you?

And if in marriage, two becomes one FLESH, you're not going to seriously suggest, are you, that another woman or women plural figuring into that becomes part of that overall ONE FLESH...are you?

Are you claiming that "sister wives" become one flesh? (And what would then be the difference between that and two or three or four lesbian women claiming they are "one flesh" coupled with an occasional guy who helps them get pregnant for sheer parenting purposes?)

So. Tell us why Gen. 2:24 and Matt. 19:5-6 don't militate vs. polygamy.

37 posted on 12/20/2011 9:08:17 PM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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