Two December births to celebrate: Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith [Merry Smithmas Day!]

Very good point!
Being a good Morman will not get you to heaven. And true there are bad Christians, but a true Christian is a child of God, and is a joint heir with Christ.

A bad christian will be chastened by his heavenly Father.
“He that hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.” (Philippians 1:6)

21 posted on 12/23/2011 4:07:53 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)

Revelation 22:18. Its about as clear as it needs to be. The Book of Mormon is an addition.

22 posted on 12/23/2011 4:58:38 PM PST by vetvetdoug

Joey worship anyone ???

23 posted on 12/23/2011 5:57:31 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

Is it true that Mormons believe that you must believe in Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith to be saved?

Well...

I'll report; and you can decide.

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224

24 posted on 12/23/2011 6:31:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: freedumb2003

I get them confused.

When you are embraced by His Noodly Appendage; all confusion vanishes.

25 posted on 12/23/2011 6:32:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Still people insist that Mormonism is NOT a cult.

Only MORMONs and/or the ignorant.

26 posted on 12/23/2011 6:33:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

FR’s Department of Redundancy Department wants you to ignore the last post.

27 posted on 12/23/2011 6:34:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

To: Tennessee Nana

Joey worship anyone ???

Works for me!

28 posted on 12/23/2011 6:38:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

Praise to the marsupial...

29 posted on 12/23/2011 6:40:47 PM PST by Tennessee Nana

To: sr4402; greyfoxx39

Is it true that Mormons believe that you must believe in Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith to be saved?

Read the Mormon leader quotes found here: Reasons Joseph Smith Is More Important Than Jesus [Mormon Merry Smithmas!] -- and then tell us what you think.

30 posted on 12/23/2011 7:06:51 PM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)

Yes . The teach J Smith will be sitting with Jesus deciding who gets into heaven.

31 posted on 12/23/2011 8:05:28 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you)

32 posted on 12/24/2011 3:01:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)

33 posted on 12/24/2011 4:23:39 AM PST by BlueMoose

34 posted on 12/24/2011 4:33:50 AM PST by BlueMoose

35 posted on 12/24/2011 4:53:23 AM PST by BlueMoose

36 posted on 12/24/2011 5:01:07 AM PST by BlueMoose

To: Tennessee Nana

Joey worship anyone ???

Too bad it was always "Frankie, Deano, Sammy and that other guy..."

37 posted on 12/24/2011 10:01:06 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)

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