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Vanity: Beware of False Prophets, False Prophecy
Excerpts from http://bible.cc/matthew/7-15.htm ^

Posted on 12/24/2011 1:00:53 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: reaganaut
Kolob?

It's where they keep the best Scotch.


581 posted on 12/26/2011 4:47:46 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Elsie
I'm back in Mount Carmel my brother. Got here at 4:00pm today. I could live in North Carolina; couldn't be an Episcopalian but my jazz singing daughters friend is the son of a Baptist minister and he is a hoot. Both a jazz pianist, trombonist and accordion man. He also is a fine tenor from all those years of being the ministers kid and was recruited to sing with this choir in Smithfield for the mass.

We enjoyed it thoroughly although this old man likes to hit the sack a bit earlier than 1:00am.

I love that region. We had Shrimp and Grits in Apex NC on Friday night and then I made Danish dinner for daughter and all her friends on Christmas eve.

582 posted on 12/26/2011 5:11:08 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: MarkBsnr

LOL, no. Didn’t know about the underwear when I joined.


583 posted on 12/26/2011 5:21:15 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut
LOL, no. Didn’t know about the underwear when I joined.

That's something I don't get. If you're going to recruit comely young women, why put them into something that a coal miner might wear, instead of something that you'd see on the beach in Rio?

584 posted on 12/26/2011 5:25:09 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

To ensure ‘modesty’, lol.


585 posted on 12/26/2011 5:29:10 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Cut the marks out and use them to polish your car. There is utility in everything. Matter of fact in my dresser drawer in SLC there are at least twenty examples dating from 1960-1978. My mother died that year (1978) and they stopped coming as my speshul Christmas present.

I just use them on Halloween when I go out as the Holy Ghost.


586 posted on 12/26/2011 5:57:07 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: aruanan; Colofornian; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; greyfoxx39; Godzilla
I thought the past 180 years or so are littered with bazillions of LDS splinter groups.

It's not bazillions, but it's quite a few. The ironic thing is that some of this groups splintered off before Joseph Smith bragged that he had been more successful at keeping a church together than any other man, including Jesus.

The sadly ironic thing is that the last three, now-thought-to-be-defunct groups on this list are African sects started by blacks who were baptized by LDS missionaries then told that they could never be exalted, nor enter the Celestial Kingdom, nor be gods over their own planets, because they were Negroid. Nice to baptize you; that's the breaks. So they started their own sects of the Mormon church in which these racial restrictions on them were removed. NOW THAT'S an interesting part of Mormon history you won't see on an "I'm a Mormon" commercial.

Short Creek Community
Latter Day Church of Christ
Apostolic United Brethren
Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Church of the Firstborn of the Fulness [sic] of Times
Church of the Lamb of God
Church of the New Covenant in Christ
Confederate Nations of Israel
Righteous Branch of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
School of the Prophets
Centennial Park
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Kingdom of God
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
The Church of the Firstborn and the General Assembly of Heaven
Blackmore/Bountiful Community
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ
Order of Enoch
Aaronic Order
Zion's Order, Inc.
Perfected Church of Jesus Christ of Immaculate Latter-day Saints
Church of Jesus Christ (Bullaite)
Community of Christ
Church of Jesus Christ (Toneyite)
Independent RLDS / Restoration Branches
Church of Jesus Christ Restored 1830
Church of Christ (Lion of God Ministry/Clarkite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Zion's Branch)
Restoration Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Remnant Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Church of Christ (Temple Lot) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Fettingite) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ at Halley's Bluff (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Restored) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ "With the Elijah Message" (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Hancock) (Hedrickite)
Church of Christ (Burtite) (Hendrickite)
Church of Israel (Hendrickite)
Church of Christ with the Elijah Message (The Assured Way of the Lord) (Hendrickite)
The Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
True Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Restored Church of Jesus Christ (Cutlerite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Strangite)
Holy Church of Jesus Christ (Strangite)
Church of Jesus Christ (Drewite) (Strangite)
True Church of Jesus Christ Restored (Strangite)
Pentecostal Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Whitmerite)

And these defunct sects, or sects thought to be defunct:

Pure Church of Christ (Clarkite)
Independent Church (Hotonite)
Church of Christ (Boothite)
Church of Christ (Parrishite)
Alston Church
Church of Christ (Chubbyite)
Church of Jesus Christ, the Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Church of Christ (Pageite)
True Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
The Church of Zion (Godbeite)
United Order Family of Christ
Church of the Potter Christ
Church of the Firstborn (Morrisite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gibsonite)
Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Most High
Church of the Christian Brotherhood
Church of Jesus Christ of the Children of Zion (Rigdonite)
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Primative Church of Jesus Christ (Bickertonite)
Church of Christ (Aaron Smith)
Church of the Messiah (Adamsite)
Church of Christ (Wrightite)
Church of Christ (Whitmerite)
Church of Christ (Brewsterite)
The Bride, the Lamb’s Wife
Congregation of Jehovah’s Presbytery of Zion
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Gladdenite)
Independent Latter Day Saints of Nigeria
Independent Latter Day Saints of Ghana
Apostolic Divine Church of Ghana

587 posted on 12/26/2011 5:57:08 PM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: reaganaut
To ensure ‘modesty’, lol.

My comely young bride is 44 and looks absolutely wonderful in a very few strategically placed strings and wisps (and even better out of them!!!). No coal miner's duds for her.

If that is how they want to wrap their women (and themselves up), why this is really no better than the Muslim laundry bag over the head.

588 posted on 12/26/2011 6:12:39 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Utah Binger
Cut the marks out and use them to polish your car. There is utility in everything. Matter of fact in my dresser drawer in SLC there are at least twenty examples dating from 1960-1978. My mother died that year (1978) and they stopped coming as my speshul Christmas present. I just use them on Halloween when I go out as the Holy Ghost.

Pictures, or it didn't happen!!! :)

589 posted on 12/26/2011 6:29:58 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; reaganaut

Sorry but my imagery would get me banned for the rest of history. The best I can do is to mount material from the picnic which I will do by request. If you come to SLC, I will sell you all the leftover garment car polishing material for a few thousand dollars. Please be serious though as I deal in antique crap which is really very rare.

Art dealer you know!


590 posted on 12/26/2011 6:55:24 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where INVITED Freepers will meet again next summer. Jim Robinson Too)
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To: Utah Binger

And you can use the Book of Mormon for toilet Paper. Waste not want not.


592 posted on 12/26/2011 7:55:15 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Utah Binger

And you can use the Book of Mormon for toilet Paper.

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Too scratchy. But garmies for car cloths isn’t a bad idea.


593 posted on 12/26/2011 8:47:42 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Utah Binger
Sorry but my imagery would get me banned for the rest of history. The best I can do is to mount material from the picnic which I will do by request. If you come to SLC, I will sell you all the leftover garment car polishing material for a few thousand dollars. Please be serious though as I deal in antique crap which is really very rare.

It is a very attractive proposition. If you throw in a set of peepstones or a seeing hat, I might consider it.

594 posted on 12/26/2011 8:49:33 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Utah Binger; mrreaganaut

I just use them on Halloween when I go out as the Holy Ghost.

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ROFL. Worth a repost, just for the visual. Thanks Binger. Hope you had a Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year!


595 posted on 12/26/2011 8:49:58 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: CodeToad; Jim Robinson; All
Exactly. Forked tounged devils. Lying is not Christian. Deception is lying and the Mormons lie knowingly.

This is NOT anti-Mormonism. This is an example of anti-Mormon bigotry that many say does not exist on this site.

With management sowing (as opposed to simply allowing) anti-Mormon posts I will have to bid FreeRepublic farewell

I have asked Jim Robinson to ban/suspended/deactivate/excommunicate...Whatever it takes to leave this site.

The ex-Mormons on this thread can appreciate why my request to leave FreeRepublic should not be made difficult right?

I make this decision with a heavy heart.

I love America. I love Freedom. I love my family and neighbors, but most of all I love Jesus Christ. He is my Savior and King.

Take care and God Bless.

596 posted on 12/26/2011 9:54:39 PM PST by GreyMountainReagan ("Pray for America")
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To: GreyMountainReagan; Jim Robinson

I love my family and neighbors, but most of all I love Jesus Christ. He is my Savior and King.

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Then why are you LDS? That isn’t what your church teaches.

I’m sorry to see you go, but it is a misguided untruth for you to claim that the management sows ‘anti-mormon’ behavior.

I have many personal examples as do several other ex-mo’s and never mo’s of LDS lying.

No, you would rather opus out and frankly that is sad.

Courtesy ping to JR


597 posted on 12/26/2011 10:09:38 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: GreyMountainReagan
If you were holding to something real your sacrifice would have merit and meaning. As it is you turn your back on friends for a known and proven lie.

Sad that...

As far as anti-Mormon/Mormonism, it is a fine line since it is a proven fact that the LDS encourages lying and there are those”operator” types in the LDS who keep the lies going for the masses knowing there is not a shred of truth in them. When there are those who practice to deceive by design and purpose they cease to be individuals and are mechanism of the movement itself.

598 posted on 12/26/2011 11:18:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: GreyMountainReagan; CodeToad; reaganaut; Jim Robinson; Saundra Duffy; All
“Mormons use Christian vocabulary but have very different meanings. And, yes Mormons are aware that we mean different things but use the terms to make people think they are Christian, deception of the highest order and it is intentional.” [Reaganaut]

Exactly. Forked tounged devils. Lying is not Christian. Deception is lying and the Mormons lie knowingly. [CodeToad]

With management sowing (as opposed to simply allowing) anti-Mormon posts I will have to bid FreeRepublic farewell I have asked Jim Robinson to ban/suspended/deactivate/excommunicate...Whatever it takes to leave this site. The ex-Mormons on this thread can appreciate why my request to leave FreeRepublic should not be made difficult right? I make this decision with a heavy heart. [GreyMountainReagan, post #596]

Why not stick around at least for the duration of this thread, GMR? If you want to still jump the FR ship and go FR AWOL in '12; hey, it's a Free Republic.

At least be "poster enough" to explain yourself.

Otherwise, we have to speak for you. And I am left, therefore, to conclude that you seemed to be...
(a) ...suddenly bothered by a FREEPER's (CodeToad's) specific accusation;
(b) ...and most bothered that JR isn't censored according to your controlling tastes.

Those are really sad reasons to fall on your FREEPER sword, GMR.

Why?

#1...what CodeToad mentions seems to be somehow presented by you as "new" and "sudden" to 2011 FR threads. Here's a headline for you, GMR: "It's NOT!" Here, allow me to "educate" you:
* LDS Leaders, Their Ethics and Lying for the Lord
* Mormon Profits and Lying
* Mormon Lying
* Talk About Dishonest...[Mormon]
* Mormon Professors Confuse Doctrine and Rumor
* Mitt Romney's Lying Problem

Tell us, GMR, why didn't you fall on your sword on any of these above threads if these comments are supposedly so provocative to you? I mean, here we had entire themed threads on this subject -- vs. just a few comments.

You didn't. So it comes across to us that you are feigning overprovocation re: CodeToad's comment...Which, in turn, seemingly means that what really strikes at your Mormon craw is that you haven't been able to censor JR.

That's where the rubber hits the road here, isn't it? That Jim Robinson is a...
...free man...
...living in a Free Republic...
...unlike the Mormon "kingdom" where a man can't speak so freely.

Since I'm not sure if you'll further respond, it's at this point I take out my Glenn Beck-like "chalkboard" and provide all you FREEPERS with a lesson about Mormons that GMR and other Mormons have provided for us in 2011:

You see, Mormonism is all about "control."

Since GMR can't "control" Jim Robinson's keyboard,
he is picking up his Christmas toys
(which he earned and merited conditionally)
And he's either...
...sulkily slipping away into the night...
...Or storming off in a quiet rage...
...Or (fill in the blank)

Now, if you would, look @ my "chalkboard" screen to observe these 2011 posting patterns re: Mormonism...Click on these live links if you want to learn why Mormonism is so into "control."

Three areas of this coveting of control revealed itself over 2011...Mormons' desire to control...
...designations...
...content...
...perceptions...

Now, granted, Mormons aren't alone on this. The whole Marketing premise is that corporations can control your perceptions about their image. Yes, some marketers are more humble and realize they can only influence -- vs. control -- their image...but those marketers are becoming fewer in number and prestige.

But you see, the very hierarchical men who run Lds, Inc. are businessmen. Many of whom think exactly like marketers.

Now, what evidence that posted itself in 2011 undergirds these Mormon patterns?

#1 Mormon Sought-After Control of Designations:
* The Only True and Living Church [Mormon] (127 replies around the discussion that the Mormon Church wants to bill itself as "The Only True and Living Church"...I suppose knowing this, all the other Non-Mormon people should just pick up their toys and storm off when they find Lds people who believe D&C 1:30, eh GMR?)
* Mormon Official Equates Christianity with “a false cult” (124 replies around the discussion it's "A-OK" for Mormons to label Christians a "cult" -- but not vice-versa)
* Strains Within the Mormon Subculture. (Attitude of Superiority) (discussion around how Mormons are too elitist to have to put up with Gentile-ism)

#2 Mormon Sought-After Control of Content:
* Should one limit consideration of “Mormonism” to what minimalists deem “official” and “binding”? (144 replies around the discussion that Mormons consider it "unfair" for you to be "nosing around" in what their leaders have said outside of what they want to hand-feed you with...almost as if we're guilty of peaking inside Christmas gifts designated only for them)
* Wiki Wars: In battle to define beliefs, Mormons and foes wage battle on Wikipedia (discussion how Mormons want to patronize you as babes only in need of "milk" -- not Mormon meat)

And finally, #3 Mormon Sought-After Control of Perceptions:
* Journalists urged to allow Mormons to define themselves (164 replies on a thread started by a Mormon, Saundra Duffy, where an Lds, Inc. PR person labels the five things he has trouble controlling the most...that people think of Mormons as a "cult"; that they are not "Christians"; that they are weird, secretive, and still embrace eternal polygamy.
* Perceptions of Mormonism (Imagine that...a discussion around the obvious reality that Mormons apparently don't like...that, yes, Virginia, people really do have perceptions about MormonISM!

599 posted on 12/27/2011 4:01:41 AM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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To: GreyMountainReagan; CodeToad; reaganaut; Jim Robinson; ejonesie22; Saundra Duffy; restornu; ...
This is an example of anti-Mormon bigotry that many say does not exist on this site. With management sowing (as opposed to simply allowing) anti-Mormon posts

Yet Open Mormon bigotry of the Christian church -- claims that we Christians -- including Jim Robinson, Reaganaut, etc. -- are...
...spiritually unfaithful ("apostates"),
...members of the church of the devil,
...who are "corrupt"...
...& who believe creeds that are 100% putrid...
...is to not only be allowed but sowed by your 10% tithing to Lds, Inc.

Why. How "nice" it is to be so "consistent." Eh, GMR?

ALL: Let's say, for a moment, that a new church sprung up. Let's call it Grey Mountain New Church.

Let's say...
...they added "Revelation 23" to their Bible.
...and some unnamed entities appeared unto their leader, and he reported as part of "Revelation 23":
My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.I was answered that I must join NONE of them, for they were ALL wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that ALL their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were ALL corrupt; [NOTE: This, in fact, is literal "Mormon scripture" -- Joseph Smith 1, vv. 18-19 in the Pearl of Great Price]

Furthermore, let's say the leader of this "newbie church" claimed he was lay[ing] the foundation of this church, and to bring it forth out of obscurity and out of darkness, the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth [this is in fact "Mormon scripture" -- Doctrine & Covenants 1:30]

Furthermore, let's say the leader of this "newbie church" claimed that this "Only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth" was the "church of the Lamb of God" -- and he translated an ancient document which said:
"Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth." [this is in face "Mormon scripture" - 1 Nephi 14:10 from the Book of Mormon]

Now let's say that this church grew to 14 million around the world -- and that about 5-6 of million of them tithed to spread the above message into over 100 different languages.

Fact: Mormon "scriptures" bash Christians 24/7 in all kinds of languages every hour of every day. Yet not a complaint from you, GMR. Why not?

Unlike GreyMountainReagan, who accuses (labels of "bigotry"), yet provides no evidence...I'll provide evidence:

I have the Lds Church published Topical Guide of the Bible (1979). When you look under "Apostasy of the Early Christian Church" -- p. 13 -- The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints lists 1 Nephi 13:26 of the Book of Mormon as applicable to our history: ...thou seest the formation of a great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious; and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away.

So. They accuse our spiritual forefathers of being...
..."a great and abominable church"
...It's supposedly "most abominable above all other churches"
...And that we removed most of the Gospel of Jesus Christ;
...and finally, removed covenants as well.

ALL: The lesson that GreyMountainReagan, the Mormon, wants you to know is that it's "A-OK" for these kinds of accusations about Christians to be plastered around the globe by 52,000 missionaries and 24/7 Lds.org and Lds books & curricula...but, if a few FREEPERS dare to make a perceived overly negative comment about Mormons, the thin skin is bared and it's time for the Mormon toys to go home.

BTW...that same 1979 Topical Guide of the Bible published by the Mormon Church...check out p. 101 under the entry of "Devil, Church of"...When we see Book of Mormon verses listed like 1 Nephi 13:6, 32 and 14:9-10...it leaves absolutely no doubt that "true believing Mormons" -- including some FREEPERS -- deem us Christians as part of the "Church of the devil."

The LDS church proclaims to be the "one true church" (see Doctrines & Covenants 1:30 coupled with Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 14:9-10); in fact, theologically, according to this latter passage Mormons only recognize two churches -- the true one and the Satanic counterfeit. (Guess who LDS label as the true "Lamb of God" church and who by default thereby falls under the broad Satanic umbrella?)

So, GreyMountainReagan apparently has no qualms with concluding that we are...
...Satanic...
...corrupt...
...spiritually unfaithful...
...Heart wanderers...
...Creedally abominable...
...But mention the word "lying" around him in conjunction with Mormons, and his dander and dithers become tizzified.

600 posted on 12/27/2011 4:38:31 AM PST by Colofornian (Mormon polygamy: It ain't just for time anymore...Lds tie the plural knot sequentially THESE days)
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