[driftdiver]

Thanks I was looking for a means to get more people out of idolatry.

[Past Your Eyes]

Is the point of posting this to stir up contention between Freepers?

[cripplecreek]

Personally I’ve long believed that those who attempt to stir sectarian ire among conservatives, are only doing so to help liberals.

[American in Israel]

As according to the Bible, sin is passed through the seed of man, Mary could not have been sinless. Though Mary was full of Grace, that also does not make her sinless, just a wonderful woman. Bet she was the best of women, and the worlds best mother.

But she was not sinless. Only Christ was because the sin of the flesh was not passed by the seed of man.

While the faith of his fathers may have been Roman Catholicism, his faith had better be in God, not in the Church. Or he IS in apostasy. This is a funny article to be posted, as the Prostestant church is begining to merge once again under the pope. One suspects it is not a step in the right direction as this article would indicate a one way street based on political correctness, not a melding of the mind's on the Word of God.

[Mr. K]

With luck, people like this can get the Catholics and Protestants fighting and killing each other just like the Shiites and Sunni’s in Iraq!

Wouldn’t Jesus just love that?

[MarkBsnr]

In my experience as a Protestant, all the Catholics who had a conversion in a Protestant setting lacked a firm grasp of their Catholic faith. In twenty years of Protestant ministry, I never met a Catholic who knew that John 3:3-8 describes the sacrament of Baptism. It wasn't hard to convince them to disregard the sacraments along with the Church that emphasized the sacraments. Proverbs says: "He who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him" (18:17). Catholics without a scriptural foundation for their Catholic beliefs never hear "the rest of the story." My selective use of scripture made the Protestant perspective seem so absolutely sure. Over time, this one-sided approach to scripture caused Catholics to reject their Catholic faith.

You have hit the nail right on the thumb, my friend. Those who leave the Faith do so for personal reasons. Those who join the Faith do so for theological ones.

You are well come to the Faith.

[Cuchulain]

“Upon this rock I will build my church.”

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[BipolarBob]

We could have done without this chestnut. It is short on theology or any meaningful dialogue and long on emotion.

[WorkingClassFilth]

I find nearly all of the faith threads to be of little use and overwhelmingly whining apologetics for a sectarian view. Catholic, Baptist, Mormon, whatever. If I knew any of you personally, instead of as composed bits on the web, I would care about only one thing - your relationship to Christ. When people speak to me about their 'church' or 'the church' I almost always find their daily living faith is justified in the institutions, not the living Christ. As a believer, I rest assured that all who follow Christ worship him in spirit and in truth; inward conditions that find outward expression. In that, I find kinship with all the Bible Patriarchs and Christ who sought to free men from sin as well as their religious addictions and give them redemption, freedom and an eternity with our Creator. May God bless you all this year and lead you into faith that knows no man or building save Christ - the solid rock.

[wonkowasright]

That is it in a nutshell. To summarize the method you used, find the uneducated in the faith and confuse them.

The grace thing is the biggest one. One must first understand grace to understand salvation by grace. From Luther onward the meaning of Grace was obfuscated intentionally.

[MrPiper]

I believe in Jesus, what religion am I?

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Steve Woods, author, sounds like a dishonest scammer.

I hope the Roman Catholic Church can do something good with him...

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Hey n00b, did you sign up in September 2011 to post divisive stuff?

It appears this has been your specialty so far.

[Jeff Chandler]

Is this an Apostasy thread or can anybody post?

[Dogbert41]

The Lord separates the sheep from the goats. I didn’t see anywhere where there is further separating, like Protestants from Catholics, Baptists from Pentecostals.

Perhaps your concern should be:

“When the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8)

[BereanBrain]

We don’t need a Protestant Church or a Catholic Church.

We need people to read their bibles and take salvation seriously.

“The Church” is not a worldly church run by men, it’s God’s people, in all continents, in all walks of life, yes even in Catholic OR Protestant churches. And even those who have never attended a physical Church. Read Romans 1, about how God will give those who receive the light he gives them more light, so that none have an excuse.

The problem is not that men don’t know the truth, but that men love the darkness. Similarly the problem is not the church, it’s with the believers.

[faucetman]

“There are now thousands of Catholic men on the brink of leaving the one Church Christ died to establish. I recently heard of a group of Catholic men who decided not to consult the Catechism of the Catholic Church in their small-group bible study. They believed that all they needed was scripture alone. Three of these men claimed that they no longer believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. I can tell you from experience where this group is headed: straight out of the Catholic Church.”

“the one Church Christ died to establish”???? I don't think so.

“They believed that all they needed was scripture alone.”

Ugh, YES! It's the only book He wrote.

“the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.” Religious mumbo jumbo.

The real presence of Christ is in “ME”, not some cracker or Welch’s Grape Juice.

[Salvation]

**St. Joseph’s Covenant Keepers (SJCK), a dynamic apostolate for Catholic men, and runs the web site dads.org**

Good organization.

[faucetman]

It's real simple to me. What does the bible say? That's it. The Word of God, period. If you need another book, catechism, or Book of Mormon to teach your faith, then you are selling God short. He didn't write those books.

If you need a pope, or a council to spell out a bunch of rules for your faith, maybe you should just ask Jesus instead.

If your religion spends a fortune on gold regalia, robes, palaces and cathedrals (not to mention it's own whole country)instead of on the starving children, maybe you are missing the message.

Mathew 18:20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”

You don't need a country, cathedral, or church building, pope, cardinal, bishop, or priest to worship Jesus. Does all that junk help or does it separate you from Jesus and the Word of God? It gets in the way, is the correct answer.