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To: rzman21
On the contrary...your religious system is spiritually undiscerned to continue to be justified by yourselves out from among works of the flesh. However, when you quote James you are boasting about your very own self righteous works - but what does my God say to you about your own works?:

Ephesians 2:8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

It is impossible for me to lose my salvation: Read what GOD says to you, GOD has done ALL the WORK on the Cross for the complete forgiveness of ALL my sins forever, and no pope can take that out of the hands of GOD:

Romans 8:34: Who is he that condemneth? [the Pope condemns all that are not Catholics] It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Romans 8:35: Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Romans 8:36: As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Romans 8:37: Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

Romans 8:38: For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Romans 8:39: Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

It is Christ's finished work on the Cross that permits me to "rest" in the finished work of Christ knowing that my sins are completely forgiven - it is GOD who forgives my sins, not men -- but you must continue to go about your own self righteous works to be saved...hoping that in the end you are saved after you physically die... All the while I will be in heaven watching from above as you continue to boast in doing good works which are opposed to God's free grace of salvation...

Ephesians 2:8: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Ephesians 2:9: Not of works, lest any man should boast.


54 posted on 01/03/2012 7:21:33 PM PST by bibletruth
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To: bibletruth

On the contrary...your religious system is spiritually undiscerned to continue to be justified by yourselves out from among works of the flesh.
>>This shows signs of being unlearned. Protestants don’t have a clue about what Catholics really mean or believe.

Self-righteous works are worthless. Did you bother reading what St. Mark the Ascetic wrote in the excerpt I cited?

Stop reading polemical tracts written by ignorant people who don’t know what they are writing about.

The works St. Paul refers to are the works of the Jewish law. He’s not talking about Christians keeping the commandments by faith.

So go rape, steal, cheat, etc. and say the magic words “Jesus I believe in you” and still go to heaven. Isn’t that what you are arguing for?

I know all of these verses, and they don’t mean what you construe them to.

Works without grace are dead, period.

Don’t go twisting scripture to make it fit your agenda, as St. Peter writes.

Of course salvation is by grace alone because there’s no way to be able to satisfy all 613 Levitical commandments that God gave Moses as a punishment for the Israelites’ sins.

Catholics believe in salvation by grace through faith every bit as much as Protestants do. It’s just the Scholastic terminology convolutes their real meaning.

You don’t have a clue about Catholicism.


55 posted on 01/03/2012 10:01:16 PM PST by rzman21
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