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To: cripplecreek

As a protestant I hope the Catholic Church does get to clean up the infection with whatever medicine it takes. I wish the church the best.

The problem is that the Catholic Church provides a hiding place (if not a breeding ground) for the pederasts that infect them. The church cannot challenge this doctrine, as far as I know.

Some of the best defense and justification of marriage (between a man and a woman) that I have heard or read comes from the Catholic church. This is a sacrament that protects men from their own baser instincts, but is denied to their priests.


8 posted on 01/06/2012 2:25:26 PM PST by CPO retired
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To: CPO retired
The problem is that the Catholic Church provides a hiding place

I don't buy it. I see it as an organizational issue and its the same in virtually all large organizations. Penn State, Police, Government, widely diverse organizations react similarly to crimes within their ranks.
12 posted on 01/06/2012 2:37:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: CPO retired
The problem is that the Catholic Church provides a hiding place (if not a breeding ground) for the pederasts that infect them. The church cannot challenge this doctrine, as far as I know.

What doctrine would that be, Chief? (I doubt you realize that the Vatican banned the ordination of homosexuals and pederasts in February of 1961. Can you provide documentation that any protestant denomination has done the same?)

This is a sacrament that protects men from their own baser instincts, but is denied to their priests.

Incorrect on several levels:

(1) Normal men aren't pederasts
(2) The majority of pedophiles are married men
(3) 21 of the 22 Churches sui juris which comprise the Catholic Church, ordain, as a norm, married men. Those men who seek ordination in the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church do so of their own free will. No one holds a gun to their head and forces them to adopt the discipline of celibacy.

The question you need to ask yourself is not why do Priests in the Latin Rite adopt the discipline of celibacy but why don't all ministers follow the example of Christ, the Apostles and the counsel of St. Paul? Quite frankly, you don't have a very good comprehension of what the Ministerial Priesthood of the Ordained entails.

"But I would have you to be without solicitude. He that is without a wife, is solicitous for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please God. But he that is with a wife, is solicitous for the things of the world, how he may please his wife: and he is divided. And the unmarried woman and the virgin thinketh on the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit. But she that is married thinketh on the things of the world, how she may please her husband. And this I speak for your profit: not to cast a snare upon you; but for that which is decent, and which may give you power to attend upon the Lord, without impediment." 1 Corinthians 7:32-35

19 posted on 01/06/2012 6:49:46 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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