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To: Colofornian

Thanks for the lecture. You have managed to convince me to totally ignore the ten Commandments. Now, tell me why I should bother keeping any of the laws of the land we live in? If God’s Law from Scripture can’t possibly be kept, let anarchy reign. (sarcasm)


28 posted on 01/07/2012 4:30:54 PM PST by STYRO (Take this government and shove it.)
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To: STYRO

If we could keep the commandments perfectly (really at all), then Christ didn’t need to die.

So, I ask you (again) is Salvation by Grace or Works? The Law or Christ?


29 posted on 01/07/2012 4:47:37 PM PST by reaganaut (If Romney is a conservative then I'm the frickin Angel Moroni.)
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To: STYRO
You have managed to convince me to totally ignore the ten Commandments.

Martin Luther talked about 3 purposes of the "law" for us in the New Testament era:

A mirror; a guide; a curb.

As a mirror, the Law shows us where we fall short -- and drives us to fall on God's mercy and grace.

As a curb, the Law -- like man's law -- teaches. It can pre-empt us from disobedience...but it's nowhere 100% effect...not any more, effective, Styro than those mph signs keep you 100% perfect in your driving record. Right?

I'm sure that posted signs have indeed aided your driving record -- as a "curb"; but they've not launched you into a 100% perfect driving record -- have they?

And, as a "guide"...from the commandments, we know God's will. But simply knowing God's will doesn't provide the accompanying power to obey it, now does it?

Now, tell me why I should bother keeping any of the laws of the land we live in? [Styro]

Same thing I said above, Styro. The law of the land provides a curb and a guide to help us stay on the "straight and narrow." And as a mirror, you should have at least concluded by now that if you can't even obey 100% of the laws of the land (like mph, for example), how could you possibly obey 100% of God's law?

I looked up EVERY article on Lds.org one time that mentioned "LAW." 'Twas quite interesting to realize that NOWHERE in ANY Lds.org article did the LDS EVER list EVERY law. And, in fact, when you looked at those Lds articles that even listed several laws, nowhere did those lists even come close to matching...meaning the Lds gatekeepers couldn't even agree which laws were the most important to highlight for their readers!

If I was a gambler, I could probably wage a million $ that not a single Mormon could name EVERY law mentioned by Lds general authorities on Lds.org. [What a crying shame, 'cause even Joseph Smith said: “We cannot keep all the commandments without first knowing them, and we cannot expect to know all, or more than we now know unless we comply with or keep those we have already received.” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 256.)]

And Mormons are shooting for the highest degree by way of perfect obedience??????

Can you name all the laws & commandments listed just on Lds.org, Styro????

No? Then Joseph Smith said you can't possibly keep when they're not even on the tip of your lips!!!

30 posted on 01/07/2012 4:51:25 PM PST by Colofornian
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