[ConservativeMind]

Good post. Mary is the Earthly mother of Jesus and not of God.

I would like any Catholics to show, in their own translation of the Bible, where Mary or any of their “saints” can be prayed to.

I believe we are hearing the sound of crickets now...

[Al Hitan]

I would like any non-Catholics to show, in their own translation of the Bible, the doctrine of sola scriptura.

I know we are hearing the sound of crickets now...

[one Lord one faith one baptism]

Good post. Mary is the Earthly mother of Jesus and not of God

so Jesus is not God?

are you a Jehovah Witness or Mormon?

[narses]

ConservativeMind wrote:

I would like any Catholics to show, in their own translation of the Bible, where Mary or any of their “saints” can be prayed to.

Paul's letters clarify how the Apostolic Church under the influence of the Holy Spirit spoke of believers as "saints," whether living or dead.

Paul asked the saints to pray for him and to imitate him.

Faithful people in the Post-Apostolic Church in the Apostles Creed defined the confessional response to faith in their creed: "We believe in the communion of saints."

Through Baptism we pass "from death to life; death no longer has dominion over us." Christians must believe that there is no real distinction between the believer in human life and after human life. Saints, living or dead, are indistinguishable before God.

If we can pray for and with saints in this life, we can pray for and with those saints after human life.

And as Paul asked saints to imitate him as he imitates Christ, the Church encourages Catholic Christians to imitate the holiness of the saints as they imitated the holiness of Christ and the Father.

As a hem of a garment, the shadows of saints, and clothes of the saints were used devotionally in the Apostolic Church, so relics and images of the saints are devotionally encouraged by the Church today.

First among saints by the fullness of grace which was hers is the Mother of Jesus, Mary.

From http://www.catholicapologetics.org/ap070000.htm

ConservativeMind wrote:
I believe we are hearing the sound of crickets now...

[D-fendr]

The same way I can pray to you:

Dear CM, please pray for me.

Christ conquered death.

[gghd]

Jesus Christ walked the Holy Lands building a Church. Jesus Christ did not hand out Bibles saying, ‘Here read this & argue about it.’

There is ONE Church. The Saints in Heaven & the people on earth in a state of God’s Grace are all building blocks in the ONE Church.

In most Protestant Churches they have what is called a >’Prayer chain’ where people are asked to pray (Sometimes even Uncle Harry is asked to pray).

The Roman Catholic Church has a Prayer chain too & they also include the Saints in Heaven as part of the Prayer Chain. It’s that easy> as it’s intercessory prayer that includes the whole Church. (The people in Heaven & the people on Earth.)

A Priest in the Roman Catholic Church said, ‘God knows all our prayers before we pray them. God knows what we want & what we need. One of the purposes of prayers is to open our hearts to God so that God can transform our hearts.’

[A.A. Cunningham]

I believe we are hearing the sound of crickets now...

You're confused, yet again. That's the sound of the BB rattling around inside your grape.

[stonehouse01]

“show in the Bible where Mary or any of the saints can be prayed to ... Crickets, etc.”

In Luke Chapter 9 Verse 28 Jesus himself prays to Moses and Elijah (saints) for them to join him and they do on the mountaintop.

In Luke 16, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the rich man prays directly to Abraham (saint) to help him out of his torment.

The dead who are “in Christ” (the saints) are not dead and therefore can be communicated/prayed with/to as if they are alive, because they Are alive.