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To: G Larry
” None of his brothers and sisters were gods.”

True!

He didn’t have any!

Guess again

WHEN Jesus came to His own hometown synagogue to preach, he astonished the people with His teachings. In their amazement, they asked, "Whence hath THIS man this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not ALL with us?" (Matt. 13:54-56).

53 posted on 01/11/2012 8:24:14 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: P8riot

The margin between guessing and informed study are not in your favor.

Examine Mt 27:56, Mark 15:40, and John 19:25. In these James and Joses (Joseph), who are mentioned in Mt 13:55 with Simon and Judas (Jude) as Jesus’ “adelphoi”, are called sons of Mary, wife of Clopas, a different Mary from the Mother of Christ.


202 posted on 01/11/2012 9:50:21 PM PST by G Larry ("I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his Character.")
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To: P8riot
Guess again

That's quite obviously what you've done, since Scripture shows that the brethren in the passage you cherry-picked are the biological sons of different women, not the Blessed Mother. This is a common mistake that those who are ignorant of Scripture make and never learn not to repeat.

Is not this the carpenter's son?

So you linguistic literalists believe that Joseph was the actual father of Jesus and not the Holy Spirit?

"Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brethren James, and Joseph, and Simon, and Jude:" Matthew 13:55

James (the less), Joseph and Jude are the sons of Cleophas (Alphaeus) and Mary - another Mary, not the Blessed Virgin Mary:

"Among whom was Mary Magdalen, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee." Matthew 27:56

"And there was there Mary Magdalen, and the other Mary sitting over against the sepulchre" Matthew 27:61

"And in the end of the sabbath, when it began to dawn towards the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalen and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre." Matthew 28:1

"Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen." John 19:25

Simon, aka Zelotes, was a Cananean.

"And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he named them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder: And Andrew and Philip, and Bartholomew and Matthew, and Thomas and James of Alpheus, and Thaddeus, and Simon the Cananean:" Mark 3:17-18

"James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, Philip and Bartholomew, Thomas and Matthew the publican, and James the son of Alpheus, and Thaddeus, Simon the Cananean, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him." Matthew 10:3-4

"Simon, whom he surnamed Peter, and Andrew his brother, James and John, Philip and Bartholomew, Matthew and Thomas, James the son of Alpheus, and Simon who is called Zelotes," Luke 6:14-15

"And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode Peter and John, James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James of Alpheus, and Simon Zelotes, and Jude the brother of James." Acts 1:13

"Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James: to them that are beloved in God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called." Jude 1:1

Now, linguistic literalist, explain the use of brother and brethren in the following since these individuals are not biological brothers.

"Who, when he heard that Jacob his sister's son was come, ran forth to meet him; and embracing him, and heartily kissing him, brought him into his house. And when he had heard the causes of his journey, He answered: Thou art my bone and my flesh. And after the days of one month were expired, He said to him: Because thou art my brother, shalt thou serve me without wages? Tell me what wages thou wilt have." Genesis 29:13-15

"For whosoever shall do the will of my Father, that is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother." Matthew 12:50

"Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples, Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy and insupportable burdens, and lay them on men's shoulders; but with a finger of their own they will not move them. And all their works they do for to be seen of men. For they make their phylacteries broad, and enlarge their fringes. And they love the first places at feasts, and the first chairs in the synagogues, And salutations in the market place, and to be called by men, Rabbi. But be not you called Rabbi. For one is your master; and all you are brethren." Matthew 23:1-8

"For whosoever shall do the will of God, he is my brother, and my sister, and mother." Mark 3:35

"In those days Peter rising up in the midst of the brethren, said: (now the number of persons together was about an hundred and twenty:) Men, brethren, the scripture must needs be fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who was the leader of them that apprehended Jesus:" Acts 1:15-16

"But now I have written to you, not to keep company, if any man that is named a brother, be a fornicator, or covetous, or a server of idols, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner: with such a one, not so much as to eat." 1 Corinthians 5:6

"Then he was seen by more than five hundred brethren at once: of whom many remain until this present, and some are fallen asleep." 1 Corinthians 15:6

It's fairly obvious to the most casual observer that you have absolutely no clue.

264 posted on 01/12/2012 12:03:26 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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