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1 posted on 01/12/2012 6:30:57 PM PST by count-your-change
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Perhaps the best anagram ever made is the one which transposes Pontius Pilate’s question to Christ - Quid est Veritas? (What is the truth?) - into the answer, Est vir qui adest (It is the man who is before you).


2 posted on 01/12/2012 6:34:47 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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No bodies assumed? How do you explain this scripture?

Acts 1

Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven

1 In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach 2 until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3 After his suffering, he presented himself to them and gave many convincing proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days and spoke about the kingdom of God. 4 On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5 For John baptized with[a] water, but in a few days you will be baptized with[b] the Holy Spirit.”

6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”

7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

9 After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.

3 posted on 01/12/2012 6:43:53 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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I think there is a spiritual truth and a worldy truth, one defined as absolute and the other relative. Relative truth depends on the political climate of the day, what is judged as acceptable and maybe even flattering. But to see the real truth requires us to look beyond our own feelings, which I’m not claiming is an easy thing. Is truth something different to each person? That’s what it seems to me Pilate was asking, if only rhetorically, not expecting an answer.


4 posted on 01/12/2012 6:51:03 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder (The right thing is not always the popular thing)
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No bodies assumed into Heaven?

According to the Scriptures, in addition to Our Lord’s bodily ascension into Heaven, two Old Testament patriarchs were also.

Enoch was bodily translated into Heaven: Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

And Elijah was, too: 2Ki 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
2Ki 2:10 And he said, Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so.
2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.


6 posted on 01/12/2012 7:23:52 PM PST by Tucker39
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Myself, I parsed it differently.
From John 18:

37. Pilate therefore said to him: Art thou a king then? Jesus answered: Thou sayest that I am a king. For this was I born, and for this came I into the world; that I should give testimony to the truth. Every one that is of the truth, heareth my voice.

38 Pilate saith to him: What is truth? And when he said this, he went out again to the Jews, and saith to them: I find no cause in him.

The way I read it, Pilate said: "What is 'truth'?" I.e, "what do you mean by 'truth'?" When Jesus didn't answer, Pilate was satisfied that He was not a threat.

9 posted on 01/12/2012 7:51:21 PM PST by danielmryan
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