Posted on 01/22/2012 12:01:16 PM PST by NYer
Ping!
Notice how people want the church to bend to their whims instead of them following what is supposed to be their faith. They want the church to be less churchy is what it is, lets destroy an institution instead of just holding whatever wedding they want without a Priest. They want to corrupt the church, IMO.
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I guess corrupting the church is the thing to do after the stripper leaves from the bachelor/bachelorette parties, which show how much fidelity they will have to their spouses, not.
It's not hard to book a priest if you marry in your parish - or your parents' parish. Might be hard to book a date. Might be hard to wait, when the diocese mandates nine months or a year.
It's the venue that matters to the bride in question, the view more than the sacraments, the wedding more than the marriage, although that may be uncharitable. But better to begin your marriage in your community rather than in a showplace.
Interesting story NYer.
What I don’t understand is why people complain about the Churches approach to important issues like this.
There are thousands of other churches out there. Nobody is holding a gun to your head saying you have to be Catholic. You can be Episcopal or other faiths and still have the bells and smells even.
And if you are doing it because your family wants you to be Catholic, MAN UP MAN! If you don’t believe in it you should not belong because someone else thinks you should!
I had to be disinherited to join the Catholic Church. You should be willing to do the same, but you probably won’t have to since I’ve found Catholic’s generally to be more understanding about this than non-Catholics.
If the Church is wrong, don’t let the door hit you on your way out! Don’t go along to get along. Do what you think is right!
If that means a hippy wedding standing in a river, that is what you should do. I am sure a Unitarian minister would help you do it as well....
THe “have to in a church” for sacraments may be a little weak, since:
- the apostles had the first communion (the last supper) in a house’s upper room, not a church
- John’s water baptisms were in the Jordan river, outside
- Other believer baptisms took place outside, or in private homes, by the Apostles, and were apparently validated by God as witnesses described the Holy Spirit coming down on those just baptized
- people are given communion at home, in nursing homes, and outdoors on battlefields
- people are able to give confession outside of a church building when needed
To say sacraments ALWAYS have to be done inside the church, is just not true. Are some easier and perhaps more fitting, not to mention more used to being done there out of tradition, yes. To dogmatically insist it, no.
Also, who can forget the first man and woman who were married were not married in a church building, but rather in the open Garden of Eden. By God Himself, no less.
I understand this, but I also have questions. The following happened a few years ago.
In our (Catholic) church, there were a number of musicians in the contemporary choir who went camping together at a nearby campground one summer weekend. My family was invited and we agreed to join in. It was a weekend of fellowship from start to end, with songs, recreation, and goodwill all while enjoying God’s bounty in the beautiful world He gave us. We enjoyed it immensely.
We were surprised, but grateful, when we awoke Sunday morning to learn that someone had invited a priest to say Mass for us. We already had in our number the choir, altar servers, several Eucharistic ministers, and lectors. The priest set up an altar complete with linens and his vestments, and usual accompaniments. He brought hosts. The readings from the missalette were used. It was all just like we do at the Church we attend, only not there. It was beautiful!
What this Mass legitimate? From reading this article, I’m now wondering. It certainly felt like the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit were in attendance, nodding in approval.
My personal opinion, and I don’t expect the Church to change because of my personal opinion, is that what is more Godly than marrying in a beautiful place like a garden, park, or beachfront, which are creations of God in their purest forms? It’s not like marrying in a saloon or someone’s living room. But if the Church says No, then it’s No.
priests frequently say mass for gatherings like this. They carry a “mass kit” to do so.
Is that like a “rule”.
I have been to Catholic weddings that were outside with a priest and communion.
I mean really does God care if you are in a building or out outside, all He sees is your heart anyway.
We had daily Mass during a camping trip by the Rector of the Seminary back in the early 60’s in Latin.
Ten years ago, my sister searched all over Broward County, looking for a church for a wedding for her eldest daughter on a specific date. She couldn’t find one, so she went on line and found the church where our grandfather was baptized - in Adare, Co. Limerick, Ireland. So she booked it, and the whole clan made a family trip out of it. Great wedding with an excellent reception at the Adare Manor. We then spent the next ten days driving all over Ireland, seeing long-lost cousins.
When the Pope visited New Orleans in the 1980s, he said Mass outdoors. I’ve seen it happen when the Pope has visited other cities.
I was an altar boy who learned the latin mass, served for 4 years, and then, after 2000 years, the church changed the rules...then they wouldn’t marry my wife (also Catholic) and I in the church. So long, we’re now card carrying agnostics...after 30 years of faithful matrimony...just the kind of people the church doesn’t want to be associated with. So be it, life is good.
I’ve head of some priests marrying in the rectumry. :-)
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What is it with dingbats like this who claim they want a Catholic wedding but don’t go to church and won’t go to church after the wedding? I don’t get it.
Same with having their babies baptized.
. . . at the door of the church like Michael and Appolonia in The Godfather.
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