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To: Clemenza

You are correct sir.

The “Founders” established a Republican form of government. Not a Democracy. Democracies have a history of short life and violent end.

They were certainly Anti-Monarch. The battle cry was no King but Jesus. (No mention of a Pope)

The Loyalists were often Catholics.

Now, they did set the nation up with freedom of religion, and prohibited an establishment of a State Religion.

It is a sad state of affairs today, but there are some who still would defend the “divine right of Kings” (nonsense indeed) and a Monarchy as an acceptable form of government.

It is my opinion that this article is only posted to inflame others and divide us in our take of stopping the Commie assault we are under.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 8:10:28 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
It is my opinion that this article is only posted to inflame others and divide us in our take of stopping the Commie assault we are under.

If the Truth inflames, then the problem is yours, not the post or the poster.

The commies know their only real enemy in this world is the Catholic Church. Satan knows the right address. He knows his true enemy in this world. Obama's attack on the Church was long expected.

35 posted on 02/02/2012 9:37:34 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Texas Fossil
"The Loyalists were often Catholics."

What are you talking about? Catholics having a vested interest with Protestant England -- the same England that persecuted them and denied them rights?


  1. There were no Baptists among the Founding Fathers --> there were
    1. Church of England/Episcopalian: 28
    2. Presbyterian: 8
    3. Congregationalists: 8
    4. Lutherans: 2
    5. Dutch Reformed: 2
    6. Methodists: 2
    7. Catholics: 3 (C. Caroll, D. Caroll & Fitzsimons)
    8. Deists: 7 (including Thomas Jefferson
    So perhaps since there were no Baptists, they shouldn't be considered (according to your statement) Americans?

  2. Evidently you never heard that Maryland was founded for providing religious toleration of England's persecuted Roman Catholics?

  3. Evidently you never knew that John Caroll had initially been a priest before devoting himself to the Revolution?

  4. Evidently you never heard of Fr. Pierre Gibault who pledged the support of the region of S-W Indiana to the USA (to Col. George Rogers Clark)?

  5. Evidently you never heard of the accomplishments of John Barry, a native Irishman who captained a number of ships during the war. Barry was the first to capture a British war vessel on the high seas; he also was wounded in a sea batter yet captured two British ships and fought the last battle on the seas of the Revolutionary war. He was George Washington's choice for commander of the US navy -- he was issued Commission Number 1 by Washintong and was not only the first American commissioned naval officer but also it's first flag officer

  6. Evidently you've never heard of the Marquis de Lafayette, a Catholic or the Polish captain Tadeusz Kosciuszko and both were key in the Revolutionary War?
  7. Evidently you never heard of Casimir Pułaski, a Pole who led Washington's cavalry and died in the battle for Savannah

  8. Evidently you never heard of the Catholic Philadelphia merchant Stephen Moylan who became Quatermaster General of the Continental Army?

  9. John Caroll says this about Catholic participation in the Revolutionary war (remember the country was only 1.6% Catholic):"Their blood flowed as freely, in proportion to their numbers, to cement the fabric of independence as that of their fellow citizens. They concurred with perhaps greater unanimity than any other body of men in recommending and promoting from whose influence America anticipates all the blessings of justice, peace, plenty, good orders, and civil and religious liberty"

The religious freedom fought for was also religious freedom for Catholics from Protestant England, hence the Catholic volunteers and support from Catholic Irishmen, Frenchmen and Poles.

65 posted on 02/03/2012 2:03:55 AM PST by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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