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To: Jonty30; Dr. Brian Kopp
If it was only meant to bring forth children and, not be pleasurable, it wouldn’t have a pleasurable component to it.

False argument. You are saying that if the sex act is open to conception, it is not a pleasure. Or something like that. Obviously pleasure is inherent in the act, just as eating is inherently pleasurable, but also for nutrition. People who eat junk food, or too much, are ignoring (or overdoing!) the nutrition part. It is entirely possible to eat for health and pleasure; doesn't have to be on OR the other. Same thing with the marital act. It's not "either/or".

41 posted on 02/15/2012 8:06:24 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: little jeremiah

I agree. Within the marriage relationship, it can be either/or or both. But outside that, it is not to be done.

We agree more than we disagree here.


43 posted on 02/15/2012 8:11:01 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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