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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
A church run by men who have been mandated to take a vow of celibacy, who revere a manufactured image of a perpetual virgin as the highest form of womanhood, and who hold a supposition of a permanently celibate marriage as the greatest example of that institution, naturally has a stilted view of sex.

Sex is more than a procreative activity. It can be a uniting force that supports a life long union. Sex, in and of itself, is neither good nor bad. Being pleasurable, it can be used and abused, but like say, fire, water, gravity, etc. it can both nurture, and harm. It is the intent that shifts it into the good or bad side.

The church has set up its own argument which is completely unassailable if one accepts the underlying assertions. The church assumes that anything other than a utilitarian motivation for sex is driven by urges to power and dominance - because that weakens the power and dominance of the church. The standard view of reproduction up until the mid 1800's was that the man generated life, and the woman's function was only to be a fertile vessel. Whether it is explicitly stated or not, the abhorrence of contraception comes from the assumption that it universally destroys life. When in fact true contraception prevents life from starting, in fact really no differently than celibacy prevents life from starting.

The second underlying, unspoken purpose for a ban on contraception was that up until recently, it was just plain dangerous and unhealthy. The prohibition is there to improve the health of the population. Lastly - natural family planning - It's nothing more than bad contraception, blessed by the pope. If contraception subverts the will of God, then purposefully abstaining from sex in order to prevent conception does the exact same thing. The only thing that justifies it is the extra biblical word of the head of the church. Which reminds us of all the other unbiblical characteristics of the leadership I raised in the first paragraph. Thanks but no thanks.

69 posted on 02/16/2012 7:09:36 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Jack of all Trades
Whether it is explicitly stated or not, the abhorrence of contraception comes from the assumption that it universally destroys life. When in fact true contraception prevents life from starting, in fact really no differently than celibacy prevents life from starting.

You obviously know nothing of the Church's teachings on this subject. You entire post is nonsense.

76 posted on 02/16/2012 7:49:09 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Jack of all Trades
Here's a thread posted today: Contraception and Catholicism (What the Roman Catholic Church really teaches)

You should read it to disabuse yourself of these silly notions regarding the continual, universal teachings of Christianity (Protestant, Orthodox, and Catholic) regarding birth control (which have only been changed by some sects of Christianity, primarily Protestant, in the past 80 years.)

78 posted on 02/16/2012 8:04:17 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Jack of all Trades; Dr. Brian Kopp

Please read Dr. Brian Kopp’s comment #56.


90 posted on 02/16/2012 12:46:41 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell)
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To: Jack of all Trades
When in fact true contraception prevents life from starting, in fact really no differently than celibacy prevents life from starting.

The pill causes abortion, just by the way it works. Regular birth control pills have 2 female hormones: estrogen and progestin (a synthetic version of the naturally-occurring hormone progesterone), which causes a fertilized egg, zygote, to starve to death, because it cannot attach to the uterus lining.

97 posted on 02/17/2012 7:55:32 AM PST by bvmtotustuus (totus tuus Blessed Virgin Mary)
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