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To: wagglebee
The “Darwins”? So Darwin has to answer for all the acts of his descendants who carried his name?

Ever hear of the Spartans? They certainly conspired to prevent undesirables from reproducing.

Wow, once suspect source citing World Nutt Daily! Consider me entirely unconvinced by this one anecdotal account in the face of a Soviet POLICY of imprisoning those who taught Darwin's theory.

Eugenics is not Darwin's theory. Belief in eugenics predates Darwin. Most who accept Darwin's theory correctly reject eugenics because it is idiotic. Acceptance of Darwin's theory is not a necessity for advocating eugenics.

Moreover, even if this article didn't have to LIE to attempt to make its point - its “point” boils down to an illogical guilt by association and an appeal to consequences.

103 posted on 02/20/2012 3:58:22 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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The “Darwins”? So Darwin has to answer for all the acts of his descendants who carried his name?

Darwinism is about more than just what Charles Darwin wrote.

Eugenics is not Darwin's theory. Belief in eugenics predates Darwin. Most who accept Darwin's theory correctly reject eugenics because it is idiotic. Acceptance of Darwin's theory is not a necessity for advocating eugenics.

Once more, the DARWIN FAMILY founded the eugenics movement and were leaders of it for nearly a century.

As for your oft-repeated, yet unsubstantiated, claim that the Nazis rejected Darwinism, you might want to read this (I have included a few key passages for your convenience:

The Horrifying American Roots of Nazi Eugenics

Even the United States Supreme Court endorsed aspects of eugenics. In its infamous 1927 decision, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote, "It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…. Three generations of imbeciles are enough." This decision opened the floodgates for thousands to be coercively sterilized or otherwise persecuted as subhuman. Years later, the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials quoted Holmes's words in their own defense.

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During the '20s, Carnegie Institution eugenic scientists cultivated deep personal and professional relationships with Germany's fascist eugenicists. In Mein Kampf, published in 1924, Hitler quoted American eugenic ideology and openly displayed a thorough knowledge of American eugenics. "There is today one state," wrote Hitler, "in which at least weak beginnings toward a better conception [of immigration] are noticeable. Of course, it is not our model German Republic, but the United States."

Hitler proudly told his comrades just how closely he followed the progress of the American eugenics movement. "I have studied with great interest," he told a fellow Nazi, "the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would, in all probability, be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock."

Hitler even wrote a fan letter to American eugenic leader Madison Grant calling his race-based eugenics book, The Passing of the Great Race his "bible."

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During the Reich's early years, eugenicists across America welcomed Hitler's plans as the logical fulfillment of their own decades of research and effort. California eugenicists republished Nazi propaganda for American consumption. They also arranged for Nazi scientific exhibits, such as an August 1934 display at the L.A. County Museum, for the annual meeting of the American Public Health Association.

In 1934, as Germany's sterilizations were accelerating beyond 5,000 per month, the California eugenics leader C. M. Goethe upon returning from Germany ebulliently bragged to a key colleague, "You will be interested to know, that your work has played a powerful part in shaping the opinions of the group of intellectuals who are behind Hitler in this epoch-making program. Everywhere I sensed that their opinions have been tremendously stimulated by American thought.…I want you, my dear friend, to carry this thought with you for the rest of your life, that you have really jolted into action a great government of 60 million people."

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At the time of Rockefeller's endowment, Otmar Freiherr von Verschuer, a hero in American eugenics circles, functioned as a head of the Institute for Anthropology, Human Heredity and Eugenics. Rockefeller funding of that Institute continued both directly and through other research conduits during Verschuer's early tenure. In 1935, Verschuer left the Institute to form a rival eugenics facility in Frankfurt that was much heralded in the American eugenic press. Research on twins in the Third Reich exploded, backed up by government decrees. Verschuer wrote in Der Erbarzt, a eugenic doctor's journal he edited, that Germany's war would yield a "total solution to the Jewish problem."

Verschuer had a long-time assistant. His name was Josef Mengele. On May 30, 1943, Mengele arrived at Auschwitz. Verschuer notified the German Research Society, "My assistant, Dr. Josef Mengele (M.D., Ph.D.) joined me in this branch of research. He is presently employed as Hauptsturmführer [captain] and camp physician in the Auschwitz concentration camp. Anthropological testing of the most diverse racial groups in this concentration camp is being carried out with permission of the SS Reichsführer [Himmler]."

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After the war, eugenics was declared a crime against humanity--an act of genocide. Germans were tried and they cited the California statutes in their defense. To no avail. They were found guilty.

However, Mengele's boss Verschuer escaped prosecution. Verschuer re-established his connections with California eugenicists who had gone underground and renamed their crusade "human genetics." Typical was an exchange July 25, 1946 when Popenoe wrote Verschuer, "It was indeed a pleasure to hear from you again. I have been very anxious about my colleagues in Germany…. I suppose sterilization has been discontinued in Germany?" Popenoe offered tidbits about various American eugenic luminaries and then sent various eugenic publications. In a separate package, Popenoe sent some cocoa, coffee and other goodies.

Moreover, even if this article didn't have to LIE to attempt to make its point - its “point” boils down to an illogical guilt by association and an appeal to consequences.

It's not "guilt by association." The Darwin family developed eugenics, the "elites" loved it, many nations started eugenic sterilization programs and Germany started killing those he deemed "unfit." The Nazis didn't somehow "distort" eugenic theory, they simply took it to the logical conclusion.

122 posted on 02/21/2012 10:53:44 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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