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There Was A Pharisee...John 3 pt 1
http://billrandles.wordpress.com/2012/02/19/there-was-a-pharisee-john-3-pt-1/ ^ | 02-18-12 | Bill Randles

Posted on 02/18/2012 7:49:10 PM PST by pastorbillrandles

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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
No,G-d was talking to Ahaz. It has nothing to do with j-sus. Ahaz was in dire straits and needed G-d’s help right away. j-sus didn’t come around until 700 years later.

Yes God talked to Ahaz about his 'flesh' safety, and God told Ahaz about his 'spiritual' safety. Solomon wrote down about their being two bodies, the flesh under the sun and the spiritual body that returns to the Maker that sent it. And by what God told Ahaz is also instructional to us now even though it is history. Well at least most of that chapter is history.

41 posted on 02/20/2012 12:47:25 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Good post.

The way I remember the difference between Sadducees and Pharisees, is that one group believed in life after death and the other didn’t. The Sadducees didn’t believe in the resurrection,.....which is why they were Sad,...U sees?? ;^)


42 posted on 02/20/2012 12:49:57 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Moses would not lead the Israelites to idolatry. Worshipping anyone other than G-d IS idolatry and is to be avoided at all costs. It is a grave sin.

Moses did not lead the Israelites to idolatry, but Aaron sure did. Jesus came in the flesh to be God with US, until the appointed time for Him to become the one and for all time perfect Passover. After that final blood sacrifice and the tearing of the veil in the temple from top to bottom, each individual has direct access to the Heavenly Father in Jesus name. I pray to the Heavenly Father in Jesus Name, to demonstrate I believe Jesus is the Savior.

43 posted on 02/20/2012 12:52:51 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
“My G-d,my G-d,why have you forsaken me” is not something j-sus should have said,since he was supposed to die for us. He knew G-d’s alleged plan,so why did he ask G-d that question? If j-sus is supposed to G-d,was he crying out to himself?

King David wrote the Psalms 22 around a thousand years before the event occurred. Christ while hanging on the cross quoted the Psalms. Christ was NOT crying out to Himself but directing those that believe to a foretold witness all those many years before. Psalms 22 give the Crucifixion its credibility and witness.

44 posted on 02/20/2012 12:57:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Either He was truthful or a Liar.

If He was truthful, then volumes can be discerned from the report of His death on the Cross.

God is revealed to us in 3 persons,....one God,...3 persons. This isn’t too difficult to grasp.

Jesus Christ manifest to all humanity how we are to have fellowship with God. He remained obedient to God the Father, through faith in what He provided in His Plan, and exercised power through God the Holy Spirit.

The very same is available to us today in the Church Age.

One will never understand it until they exercise a smigeon more faith than no faith whatsoever in what Christ provided in His Judgment at the Cross.

His quoted “My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me?”, manifests His death on thee Cross. Death as a state of existence involving separation occurred when all the sins of mankind were imputed upon Jesus Christ on the Cross and Judged.

The penalty of sin is death and He remaining physically alive, while manifesting a spiritual death, bears testimony that He paid the price for our redemption.


45 posted on 02/20/2012 12:58:43 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Rom 11:25-36 0;^)


46 posted on 02/20/2012 1:03:45 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Rom 11:28
(28) As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.

There will come a time when all of this makes sense and all of Israel will be saved.


47 posted on 02/20/2012 1:06:45 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: pastorbillrandles
BTW it was by reading the Sermon on the Mount and Jesus’ exposition of the true meaning of the commandments, that I was gripped by the conviction of my need for the Saviour!

Praise be to God!

It was this very same concept that God used to open my eyes when I was dying in a religion based on works. For the first time in my life I felt clean, free, and had a desire to know and walk with Him. Upon explaining what had happened to me, that I experienced the "new birth", to the "minister" of the church I was attending, he opened his book and read the words of the church that officially excommunicated and anathematized me. I guess that was better than them stoning me for my "heresy".

48 posted on 02/20/2012 5:30:18 AM PST by uptoolate (Republican's sure do like their liberalism)
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To: Cvengr

Then there’s Satan. One God in four. Do I hear five?...


49 posted on 02/20/2012 8:44:34 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Just mythoughts

You pray to j-sus (which is idolatry)and I will pray to the one TRUE G-d.


50 posted on 02/20/2012 2:12:08 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Just mythoughts

You need to read ALL of Isaiah,Chap.7 to put Isaiah 7:14 into its’ proper context.

You cannot pick and choose from the Hebrew Scriptures.


51 posted on 02/20/2012 2:14:11 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Cvengr

I do not adhere to the ch*istian bible so Romans does not matter to me.


52 posted on 02/20/2012 2:18:44 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Cvengr

Three-in-one makes no sense and is pagan. Look up the Council of Nicea and the Council of Constantinople. It is a man-made idea and runs contrary to everything G-d said about Himself.

The trinity is difficult to understand because it defies logic and is impossible.

G-d never became a human.He made that very clear. THAT is not too difficult to grasp. I can prove this by quoting verses if you’d like.


53 posted on 02/20/2012 2:26:11 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: Cvengr

So when j-sus allegedly died on the cross he and G-d were separated? Is that how it works,because it makes ZERO sense.


54 posted on 02/20/2012 2:29:13 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
j-sus

Why the lowercase "j" and a "-" for the "e"?

55 posted on 02/20/2012 3:10:46 PM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: Tramonto

Because we Jews see him as a false god and we are forbidden from mentioning other gods and writing their names.


56 posted on 02/20/2012 3:39:00 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

So you assert the Messiah is not human. If not, what is He?

Better yet, study how Israel will know her God.

When the time comes, you will understand.

Understanding everything about God can be a fairly daunting task. One reason He reveals Himself in three persons is to help us understand how we are to have fellowship with Him.

BTW, the concept isn’t pagan. It’s Christian. Let’s at least be intellectually honest about its association.


57 posted on 02/20/2012 4:16:39 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Jews are forbidden from using the name of God in vain (as are believers). This also implies not to write into His Word what He has not added, nor remove what He has provided.

Unfortunately, it uses God’s name in vain, to deny the deity of the Son of God, Jesus Christ, and to deny His Incarnation.


58 posted on 02/20/2012 4:36:03 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

The penalty of sin is death. Death is a state of existence involving separation. The testimony of Christ Jesus on the Cross manifests that separation.

The resurrection manifests God the Father returned the human spirit to the body of Jesus Christ in the new body, the first fruits.


59 posted on 02/20/2012 4:39:29 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Chr*stianity has taken on pagan ideas. The virgin birth,the trinity and the man-god savior who dies and is resurrected are all pagan ideas from pagan religions that existed around j-sus’ time.

It was at the Councils of Nicea and Constantinople that the trinity was conceived by men.

The messiah will be human,not a man-god. He will do many things when he comes,one of which is bringing peace. j-sus never did that. Didn’t he say he came to spread the sword?

Israel knows G-d through the Torah.

Here is a list of what the messiah will accomplish:

1) He will bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4,11:6)

2) Universal recognition of G-d (Isaiah 11:9,Jeremiah 31:34)

3) Resurrection of the dead (Isaiah 26:19,Ezekiel 37:12)

4) Ingathering of Jewish exiles (Isaiah 43:5,11:11 Jeremiah 23:8)

5) Building of the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26)

Nowhere in scripture does it say the messiah will come back a second time. He will begin his mission the first time he appears. All the messianic prophesies have to be fulfilled and j-sus hasn’t fulfilled any of them.


60 posted on 02/20/2012 4:45:58 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Future Meteorologist.)
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