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To: GiovannaNicoletta
"You listened to the sermons, I presume, before you posted your comment?"

I have heard Stanley over a 20+ year period. It is the reductionism to which I am objecting. Pamphleteering (Jack Chick), principlizing (Bill Gothard), sloganizing (I found it!) are IMHO poor substitutes for believers becoming good students of the Scriptures. We really ought to be encouraging one another to get hold of the problem Paul goes to great lengths describing and the solutions found in Jesus.

Additionally, the repentance to which both Peter and Paul refer is a repudiation of any kind of self-confidence, self-righteousness and a full on dependence upon Christ, alone. Cliche' driven theology tends to orient the mind on "me" to keep these gimmicky ideas in the fore. Solid biblical theology is neither clever, nor easy to understand. Witness the gross, almost blasphemous, misunderstandings of the Law suffered by James & co. (Acts 15, 21) almost 30 years after Jesus departed earth. If we are to grow in grace and knowledge (and avoid such errors), we need a deep understanding of this tendency toward self-reliance and guard against it at every opportunity.

18 posted on 02/25/2012 12:25:07 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
I have heard Stanley over a 20+ year period. It is the reductionism to which I am objecting. Pamphleteering (Jack Chick), principlizing (Bill Gothard), sloganizing (I found it!) are IMHO poor substitutes for believers becoming good students of the Scriptures. We really ought to be encouraging one another to get hold of the problem Paul goes to great lengths describing and the solutions found in Jesus.

So, since you had to have listened to the sermons posted before you made a comment (right?), give me a concrete example from one of Dr. Stanley's sermons of, as you call it, "reductionism".

Don't make accusations unless you are prepared to back it up with facts. Produce the evidence of the accusations you've made against this great servant of Christ.

Additionally, the repentance to which both Peter and Paul refer is a repudiation of any kind of self-confidence, self-righteousness and a full on dependence upon Christ, alone. Cliche' driven theology tends to orient the mind on "me" to keep these gimmicky ideas in the fore. Solid biblical theology is neither clever, nor easy to understand. Witness the gross, almost blasphemous, misunderstandings of the Law suffered by James & co. (Acts 15, 21) almost 30 years after Jesus departed earth. If we are to grow in grace and knowledge (and avoid such errors), we need a deep understanding of this tendency toward self-reliance and guard against it at every opportunity.

Produce the evidence, as in direct quotes from Dr. Stanley, that proves your allegation. I'd hate to see you lose any credibility.

19 posted on 02/25/2012 12:37:39 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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