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To: fishtank
Here you go, from the current Catechism of the Catholic Church:
Faith is a grace
153. When St. Peter confessed that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, Jesus declared to him that this revelation did not come "from flesh and blood," but from "my Father who is in Heaven." Faith is a gift of God, a supernatural virtue infused by him. "Before this faith can be exercised, man must have the grace of God to move and assist him; he must have the interior helps of the Holy Spirit, who moves the heart and converts it to God, who opens the eyes of the mind and 'makes it easy for all to accept and believe the truth.'"

The necessity of faith
161. Believing in Jesus Christ and in the One who sent him for our salvation is necessary for obtaining that salvation. "Since 'without faith it is impossible to please [God]' and to attain to the fellowship of his sons, therefore without faith no one has ever attained justification, nor will anyone obtain eternal life but 'he who endures to the end.'"

8 posted on 02/29/2012 8:48:06 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
There is a struggle in the Catholic church for influence between socialists and conservatives. This scenario proposes the possibility that conservative Catholics lose the struggle over the church to the bad guys in the end days.

Conservative Catholics will realize when it happens and they will be persecuted for fighting against the Left’s total revisionism of the Catholic faith. It is a battle they are familiar with and have managed to win for the most part, in the aftermath of Vatican II.

I trust conservative Catholics to see and reject it if it happens no matter what deception comes their way from liberal church “authority.” They are anchored in Jesus and are not going to abandon Him even if globalist Marxists take over the church through a Pope. I think they will be the fiercest fighters if that should ever happen.

26 posted on 02/29/2012 12:28:25 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: aruanan

Notice the emphasis on obtaining, attaining, etc., in these various quotes from the catechism.

Salvation is not something you achieve by having faith and a combination of good works or rituals. Salvation is a free gift that is given to those who confess with their heart that Jesus is Lord. It is something that we are given when we specifically did not deserve it.

Romans 4
1What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?2For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.3For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.4Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

The Catechism is trying to have it both ways. It can’t ignore the bible, but at the same time, it cannot allow salvation to be “easy”. They want you to jump through hoops, such as mandatory mass, brown spaculars, confession to priests, and so on and so forth.


35 posted on 02/29/2012 5:07:38 PM PST by Apollo5600
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