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Inside Sources Provide New Info on Priest Censured for Denying Lesbian Communion
Life Site News ^ | March 2, 2012 | Christine Dhanagom

Posted on 03/02/2012 6:35:44 PM PST by ottbmare

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For those who have been following this story, here's confirmation of the version of events as related by several sources very close to the issue.

This is not the first time in his year at St John Neumann that Father Marcel has drawn the disapproval of local homosexuals. Last fall he delivered some lengthy, closely-reasoned, compassionate, but firm homilies in which he clearly stated that homosexuality is a disordered condition. Many did not like hearing this.

Addenda: St John's was jammed tonight for the First Friday and Stations services. Many visitors from another church in town came tonight to show support, donning blue to identify themselves. The senior pastor thanked them warmly.

This has been a ghastly week for the parish as the phone lines and email have been jammed with hate-filled communications. I am told that religious formation classes had to be cancelled this week because of the onslaught.

Apparently the Washington Post sent one of its minions to track down Father Marcel, but I am gratified to report that he returned to DC empty-handed and has been reduced to posting a (rather flattering) YouTube video of Father Marcel.

1 posted on 03/02/2012 6:35:52 PM PST by ottbmare
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To: ottbmare

The priest was only doing his job. If the lesbian doesn’t like the church’s rules, she should look for another church.


2 posted on 03/02/2012 6:40:41 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (A chameleon belongs in a pet store, not the White House)
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To: Salvation; NYer

pinging y’all!


3 posted on 03/02/2012 6:41:27 PM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare

God bless the Satan attacked priest.


4 posted on 03/02/2012 6:46:59 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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5 posted on 03/02/2012 6:47:50 PM PST by narses
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To: ottbmare

I nominate the excellent Knights of Columbus to physically guard the honorable Father.

The time may be rapidly approaching in our society at large, where their role may have to be much more than ceremonial.

Homos are among the most vile, vindictive and hate-filled of human beings.


6 posted on 03/02/2012 6:51:15 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: ottbmare; All

I just finished my rosary & evening prayers. As always, I prayed for priests but mentioned Fr Marcel by name.

This is spiritual warfare....I ask all FReepers to cover this priest in prayer.


7 posted on 03/02/2012 6:54:00 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: jacknhoo

Yes, God Bless him.

I wish the Diocese of Washington would publicly state that politicians who claim to be Catholic, and voted for abortion, and come to communion in the Diocese will be refused the Sacrament.

They know who they are, and we do too.

The Church would not lose a single Catholic by doing this as these people are not Catholic anyway.


8 posted on 03/02/2012 6:59:14 PM PST by Venturer
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To: surroundedbyblue

Great idea! We should all be praying for Fr. Marcel to be protected!

There seem to be fewer and fewer priests with the courage of Fr. Marcel. Many will be deterred from leading faithfully because of what Fr. Marcel is suffering now as a result of his correct call. The good news is that Jesus has prevailed over Satan already. We need to have the faith and courage that Fr. Marcel has shown.

God bless you, Father Marcel!


9 posted on 03/02/2012 7:03:35 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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I long for the days when CINO politicians are excommunicated, or at least forbidden to receive the Eucharist. They have led so many astray.


10 posted on 03/02/2012 7:06:07 PM PST by FamiliarFace
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To: ottbmare

I don’t think a priest can even give communion to a protestant, even if the protestant’s religion has it’s own form of communion. Something about the priest’s soul itself being in danger should he do so. As a Christian, I can respect that belief, and so wouldn’t dream of asking a priest for communion. Yet a heretic feels it’s an appropriate request and feins insult when denied? It’s not the heretic being persecuted in this story - it’s heterosexual family values and Christianity that’s being attacked.


11 posted on 03/02/2012 7:45:07 PM PST by blueplum
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To: ottbmare
Prayers for Father Marcel.
Kudos to him for doing what was right.
Thanks to our Lord for sending us such a man.
Shame on the lesbian as she knows what she is doing is a sin. She can't still call herself a lesbian because that shows that she is still sinning.
12 posted on 03/02/2012 7:58:53 PM PST by cloudmountain
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I figured there was a lot more to the story, and suspect the media tried to incite more hatred for the church. They got a lot of mileage out of it, and I was glad to see quite a few comments on the side of the priest.

This won't be the end of it. Wish the church had backed him up rather than apologized.

13 posted on 03/02/2012 8:08:18 PM PST by Aliska
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To: All; ottbmare
He did his job!

John 22:23

" If you Forgive the sins of any, they are Forgiven them; if you RETAIN the Sins of any, they are Retained.”

The only time Jesus breathed THE Holy Spirit literally from his mouth. Even before the Day of Pentecost in the Book of Acts.

14 posted on 03/02/2012 8:57:48 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: blueplum

Exactly! I don’t understand why the priest was reprimanded.

When my own father passed on, I was a non-practicing Catholic married to a Protestant, and I’d married in a Protestant church. At my father’s funeral, the priest gave instructions on who could and who could not receive communion, so I did not get in line for communion. Of course, the priest knew nothing about me or my situation, so I would’ve received communion if I’d gotten in line. But I wanted to respect the rules of the church my father attended, so I stayed in the pew.

If the woman in this story wanted to receive communion so badly, without any regard for the rules, she could’ve done so. The priest would not have known about her situation if she hadn’t told him. But, no, instead, she decided to politicize her mother’s funeral and start trouble.


15 posted on 03/02/2012 9:04:39 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Every day is a blessing.)
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Your respectfulness is appreciated and you and I would agree should perhaps be common sense (I wouldn’t receive in your denomination without being in full agreement with your pastor and my Church teaching) - he fears for his own infernal punishment because if you don’t know and believe, as Catholics do, that that waifer is truly Jesus Christ in an unbloody form (though it looks at tastes as bread, yes), from the same sacrifice of 2000 years ago (a mystery)re-presented, then you would be deeply offending Jesus and not YOU, but the PRIEST would be at fault for doing that, if he knew and gave it to you anyway. There are some special circumstances....

Imagine this poor woman - she knew she was spitting on Christ in receiving Him, and did so anyway.

She’s in a bad way!!! I have prayed for her to repent and seek Confession. He was looking out for her soul - and she side-stepped him and sank it. Now the extraordinary minister (a formalized assistant to give the Eucharist, not transubstantiate it nor say Mass), may be feeling guilty, though it was not that person’s fault as the woman was sneaking.

How can this woman see straight under so much sin? Pray for her.

The priest may be in hot water publicly, but Jesus adores his love for Him. It’s the poor woman that needs prayers from Jesus to shower her with the graces she needs to see His Face and Sacred Heart.


16 posted on 03/02/2012 9:39:04 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: ottbmare

I read that statement by the DC diocese in the Post, here’s a link:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/barbara-johnson-and-the-importance-of-communion-a-statement-from-the-washington-archdiocese/2012/03/01/gIQAWeiikR_story.html

If I was the priest, and if it went down like it has been reported, I reckon I would want a little more after they jumped on him. As it stands of now, the DC diocese looks like a bunch of fools. They used some pretty strong words about his actions, are they going to say anything further about it?

This is the discese that takes every chance to make sure that everyone knows abortion really isn’t too big a deal when you get right down to it, because of all the public Catholics who live there most of the time. They are allowed to facilitate abortion, while publicly proclaiming that it is a right, while also claiming they are Catholics in good standing, and the Cardinal lets them. It only gives one impression: isn’t too big a deal when you get right down to it. I wonder if the Cardinal simply doesn’t dig some priest going against the current when he is floating on down.

Freegards


17 posted on 03/02/2012 10:23:07 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ottbmare

Persevere Father Marcel persevere


18 posted on 03/02/2012 10:50:45 PM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: blueplum

I don’t think a priest can even give communion to a protestant, even if the protestant’s religion has it’s own form of communion. Something about the priest’s soul itself being in danger should he do so. As a Christian, I can respect that belief, and so wouldn’t dream of asking a priest for communion. Yet a heretic feels it’s an appropriate request and feins insult when denied? It’s not the heretic being persecuted in this story - it’s heterosexual family values and Christianity that’s being attacked.


To expand on the special circumstances - a military chaplain can and frequently does give communion to non-catholics (or catholics for that matter - two of the chaplains I served with were not catholic, yet had no difficulty with giving communion to me). On base it is easy enough to find a chaplain of your own faith, or close enough. In the field it is frequently impossible!
Hospital and (I believe) airport and shipboard chaplains also have the authority to do so.

I do not know if the good and worthy men in those positions have to be granted dispensation to do so or not, there is a retired Army chaplain here on the boards who may be able to shed more light on that side of things (I will try ping him once I remember who he is!)

I did ask, years ago, as I thought the same as you. The good Father who welcomed me into the Church just smiled and said “Which is more important? Your soul or mine?”

FRerards!


19 posted on 03/02/2012 11:55:40 PM PST by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: ottbmare

So, if I were to molest children like LIBs like to do and I told the priest before Mass that I was going to receive Communion; the Washington Archdiocese says it’s OK. Huh?

Canon 915 states, “Those who are excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and OTHERS WHO OBSTINATELY PERSIST IN MANIFEST GRAVE SIN ARE NOT TO BE ADMITTED TO HOLY COMMUNION”. (Emphasis mine) So, unless the Sxth Commandment (Adultery)has been altered by the Archdiocese, sodomy is a grave sin and they are wrong to suspend the priest. The layman who gave the woman Communion should have been suspended.


20 posted on 03/03/2012 1:41:36 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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