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To: mwl8787
These well-meaning men

Although I get your point, I'm not so sure that people advocating an expansion of socialism are well-meaning.

A desire to remove individual reponsibility contributes toward spiritual rot; I tend to think the real motive of the "do-gooders" is a desire for more power over people.

Anyway, what I'd really like to know is what Dolan's position was on the original Obamacare bill. Was he for it except for the Stupak issue? If I knew, I'd have a better idea how strong his conservatism really is.

14 posted on 03/03/2012 1:05:57 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

Dunno the answer to your specific question. I believe the answer is Yes - supported Obamacare w the worthless Stupak proviso. Remember that Shaddegg was correct at the time in Nov 2009 - if the GOP voted No on Stupak, Pelosi would never been able to get Obamacare thru the House. The Bishops INSISTED that they would “score” the amendment, and that GOP incumbents would suffer the consequences of voting NO. Had they been given a “pass,” then the bill would have died. Just shows how ignorant the Church is relative to major, strategic decisions.

Wasn’t Dolan the guy at Notre Dame who pushed for an honoraree degree for the butcher in the White House?


15 posted on 03/03/2012 1:29:05 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: what's up

The U.S. Bishops opposed Obamacare at the time for the same reasons.


19 posted on 03/04/2012 9:34:00 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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