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To: Mrs. Don-o
You can't just say "the" "Jews" believed this or that without saying which Jews

Jews in general. You'll have a hard time finding Jews who believed the Apocrypha to have been inspired.

For example...one of the reasons they denied the books as inspired was the advent of the Maccabees as kings in 1, 2 Maccabees. Jews considered the Davidic line to be anointed by God and knew the Messiah would spring from that line. Thus, they did not think the Maccabbees to be anointed in the same way as the Davidic Kingship of the OT, thus the books were not in the same vein as the God-breathed scripture of the OT.

28 posted on 03/25/2012 10:10:17 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

I think the Ethiopian Jews accepted the same list of books as inspired as do Ethiopian Christians. Ditto for Bene Israelie — the Jews in Maharashtra, india


29 posted on 03/26/2012 1:41:22 AM PDT by Cronos (Party like it's 12 20, 2012)
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To: what's up
I appreciate your patient persistence in this discussion, my FRiend. But I’m afraid you missed my main point. Maybe I didn't state it clearly, so with your permission, let me try again.

There were always different “schools” or factions of Judaism, some of which didn’t recognize anything as fully canonical except the first five books of Moses (the Torah). Others insisted that the wider canon, including the Wisdom literature found in the Septuagint (LXX) was inspired. The version of the OT most widespread throughout the period 200 BC – 100 AD was in fact the LXX. This would be considered “all of Scripture” by the Jews who took the wider canon view.

2 Timothy 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness." The inspired Scripture that Paul was referring to included the deuterocanonical books. Baruch, Tobit, Maccabees, Judith, Sirach, Wisdom and parts of Daniel and Esther were all included in the Septuagint that Jesus and the apostles used.

The LXX was used by all of the New Testament authors. THESE are the Jews who accepted the seven deuterocanonical books. THESE are the Jews accepted “all of Scripture” as God-breathed: the ones who wrote and assembled the New Testament. The ones who accepted Christ!

There was another faction that strongly rejected them. The School of Jamnia (90 - 100 A.D.) rejected the seven deuterocanonical books, the LXX, and the entire New Testatment canon.

To reject the Catholic synods and councils on this matter of canonicity is to follow a Jewish council that rejected Christ.

30 posted on 03/26/2012 6:56:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Peace!)
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