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Traditional Catholicism Is Winning
Wall Street Journal ^ | 12 April 2012 | ANNE HENDERSHOTT AND CHRISTOPHER WHITE

Posted on 04/13/2012 12:18:00 AM PDT by Cronos

There were 467 new priestly ordinations in the U.S. last year, and Boston's seminary had to turn away applicants.

.. progressive Catholics were predicting the end of the celibate male priesthood in books like "Full Pews and Empty Altars" and "The Death of Priesthood." Yet today the number of priestly ordinations is steadily increasing.

A new seminary is to be built near Charlotte, N.C., and the archdiocese of Washington, D.C., has expanded its facilities to accommodate the surge in priestly candidates. Boston's Cardinal Sean Patrick O'Malley: when he arrived in 2003 to lead that archdiocese he was advised to close the seminary. Now there are 70 men in Boston studying to be priests, and the seminary has had to turn away candidates for lack of space.

.. there were more than 5,000 more Catholic priests world-wide in 2009 than there were in 1999.

..The biggest gains are not only in traditional Catholic strongholds. In Lincoln, Neb., Catholics constitute only 16% of the population yet have some of the strongest numbers of ordinations. In 2011, there were 10 men ordained as priests in Lincoln.

What explains the trend? Nearly 20 years ago, Archbishop Elden Curtiss, then leader of the Omaha, Neb., diocese, suggested that when dioceses are unambiguous and allow a minimum of dissent about the male, celibate priesthood, more candidates answer the call to the priesthood. .. dioceses with the largest numbers of new priests are led by courageous bishops with faithful and inspirational vocations offices.

Leadership and adherence to church doctrine certainly distinguish the bishop of Lincoln, the Most Rev. Fabian Bruskewitz. He made national news in 1996 when he stated that members of dissident Catholic groups including Call to Action and Catholics for Choice had automatically excommunicated themselves from the church.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events
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progressive Catholics were predicting the end of the celibate male priesthood in books like "Full Pews and Empty Altars" and "The Death of Priesthood." Yet today the number of priestly ordinations is steadily increasing

Time for "progressive Catholics" to either become "libtars" (aka progressives) or "Catholics"

1 posted on 04/13/2012 12:18:03 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

It is a good title.

Fight, Fight, Fight, fight.


2 posted on 04/13/2012 12:33:07 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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To: Cronos

So they have queers standing in line to get into the priesthood. Hardly a sign of a healthy church.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 2:28:17 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: CalvaryJohn

“Calvary” John

Every day all of those new priests and all the faithful Catholics in the world and I pray for your soul.

Lurking’


4 posted on 04/13/2012 3:20:18 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: CalvaryJohn

“Calvary” John

Every day all of those new priests and all the faithful Catholics in the world and I pray for your soul.

Lurking’


5 posted on 04/13/2012 3:20:39 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Where does it say that these men are gay? The whole point of the piece is that it’s about a return to conservative Catholic values.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 3:35:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: CalvaryJohn

You’re holding that dog a little too closely.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 4:03:28 AM PDT by RPTMS
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To: miss marmelstein
Don't worry about it. It's just flame bait from someone who's ticked off because it's so obvious that all the faggots have moved to Protestant churches where they're praised, openly ordained, married to one another, and otherwise celebrated as special people.
8 posted on 04/13/2012 4:07:21 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Perhaps rather than spending your valuable time hating Catholics, try reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Once you are fully informed about that which you purport to hate, you can at least hate from an INFORMED position, rather than from ignorance which so ill-suits you.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 4:11:43 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: CalvaryJohn

nope, normal, devout men. the queers head to be non-Catholic pastors..


10 posted on 04/13/2012 4:48:08 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RPTMS; CalvaryJohn

yes, after the ecusa, pcusa etc. accept gay marriage, everything is open in that strange world where faith is democratic voting


11 posted on 04/13/2012 4:50:17 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Not so. Take a look at this: http://osbnorcia.org/2012/02/28/quaereredeum


12 posted on 04/13/2012 5:35:22 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Cronos
IMHO the Catholic church AND American Catholics are starting to realize what is happening. They've been tricked by Liberals but now see they have to stand up against the rise of tyranny as they did when they stood against Fascism in WWII. Catholics are big on tradition, and resistance against a hostile government goes back to the origins of the church. The rebellion will not be violent, the rebellion will not be noisy, but it will be unstoppable. My 2 cents.
13 posted on 04/13/2012 5:45:17 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Cronos; ansel12

14 posted on 04/13/2012 6:10:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Veritatis Splendor..)
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To: Rashputin

You’re right - I shouldn’t mind. Off topic, but on Easter Sunday while walking my dog past our tiny, pretty Methodist church in town, I actually saw people carrying coffee into the 10am service. At least I’ve never seen THAT at a Catholic Mass.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 6:51:19 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Cronos

This gives me an opportunity to promote one of the finest French-language movies I have ever seen: Of Gods and Men. About Trappist monks in Algeria. Beautiful and terribly sad. Not one of those monks were gay!


16 posted on 04/13/2012 6:55:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Mrs. Don-o

CLASSIC!


17 posted on 04/13/2012 7:15:47 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Cronos

Celebrate the good news!


18 posted on 04/13/2012 7:16:27 AM PDT by karnage
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To: Cronos

Excellent news, cronos. Thank you.


19 posted on 04/13/2012 7:36:54 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: CalvaryJohn

Shouldn’t you be out cruising a singles bar looking to hook up?


20 posted on 04/13/2012 7:43:29 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: CalvaryJohn

Some fantasies are best kept to one’s self, son


21 posted on 04/13/2012 7:52:28 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Cronos

**In Lincoln, Neb., Catholics constitute only 16% of the population yet have some of the strongest numbers of ordinations. In 2011, there were 10 men ordained as priests in Lincoln.**

I think the percentage of Catholics in Oregon is less than in the Lincoln diocese, yet there will be nine young men ordained.....not all are diocesan preists, though.


22 posted on 04/13/2012 8:54:10 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CalvaryJohn
You must not be aware of the strong regimen these men must go through to enter the priesthood OR the fact that all seminaries were visited and inspected by an envoy from the Vatican -- so please check your facts before you through stones.

The young men first submit an application, attacked are parental interviews, several (somehow I'm thinking five) character reference interviews. If they are accepted at that point then they undergo a two day pscyhe examination. They are then interviewed by people at the monastery and people from the diocese.

Of course, there are probationary years, and men there for the wrong reason who may have slipped through all the prelims will fall out.

Were you aware of any of this?

23 posted on 04/13/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL!


24 posted on 04/13/2012 9:01:27 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CalvaryJohn
Read up, please.

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"The Dignity and Duties of the Priest" (excerpt) by St. Alphonsus Liguori [Catholic Caucus]
On the Catholic Priesthood, AD CATHOLICI SACERDOTII, Encyclical (Long) [Catholic Caucus]
Meet The U.S.’s Largest Ordination Class
The FSSP Experiences Tremendous Growth
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It Was the Rosary: Mainz Priest Talks About His Vocation
The Priesthood (Holy Orders) [Catholic Caucus]
[CATHOLIC / ORTHODOX CAUCUS] The priesthood: the love of the Heart of Jesus
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On the menu: the priesthood

Of priests and possible priests to be
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Convert looks forward to serving God in unique way [Father Doug Piece]
Catholic Biblical Apologetics: Opportunities of Grace: [Holy] Orders
From Krishna to Christ: The Conversion Testimony of Father Jay Kythe
'Come Follow Me': Grant Desme Lays Aside Baseball Career and Responds
A's MVP Desme retires for priesthood [ Grant Desme]
THE PRIESTHOOD DEBATE
Faith Journey Leads United Methodist from Pastorate to Catholic Priesthood
Former Protestant Minister Pursues Priesthood
Married man to be ordained (RC) priest [Ecumenical]
A Father and Son Swim the Tiber and become Priests [Ecumenical]
Cardinal Arinze discusses the priestly vows of obedience, poverty and chastity (Catholic Caucus)
Pope Gives Key to Being Highly Effective Priests [Ecumenical]
Priests: Ordinary Men Made Extraordinary by Grace [Holy Orders/Chrism Mass]
7 Reasons To Be a Priest
The Nature of Priestly Ordination: Theological Background and Some Present Concerns
The Priesthood of Jesus Christ - Body and Blood (Confessional ... Consecration ... and Calvary)
What You [Catholics] Need to Know: Priesthood (Holy Orders) [Catholic-Orthodox Caucus]
What You {Catholics} Need to Know: Celibacy [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]

New priest finds joy in sacrifice
No shortage of priests in Atlanta, more than 50 seminarians
Debt, the Vocation Killer [Catholic Caucus]
Identical twins become Green Bay priests
A Modern Roman Rite Priest reports on Classical Roman Rite Training
Number of new priests expected to rise in 2007
Father, Mother, Sister, Brother [Part One of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus
It Takes a Village of Vocations [Part Two of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus
Living Single and Celibate in God’s Service [Part Three of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus
Brothers and Sisters in Christ [Part Four of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus
The Adventure of the Priesthood [Part Five of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus
This Is the Body of Christ [Part Six of a series on Celibacy and Vocations] -- Catholic Caucus
14 men are ordained into the priesthood (at St. Patrick's Cathedral NYC)
To Know, To Love, To Lead (Pope Benedict XVI ordains 22 new priests)
The Indispensable Priesthood -- Holy Thursday, [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Why Does the Catholic Church Ordain Only Men to the Priesthood? Part Three[Cath/Orth/Angl Caucus]
Why Does the Catholic Church Ordain Only Men to the Priesthood? Part Two
Why Does the Catholic Church Ordain Only Men to the Priesthood? Part One [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
Vatican Said (Again!) Not Revising Celibacy Rule
Ordinatio Sacerdotalis

25 posted on 04/13/2012 9:08:16 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CalvaryJohn
So they have queers standing in line to get into the priesthood. Hardly a sign of a healthy church.

I see that you have a rainbow of commentary, and a certain PRIDE in your statements. I find it queer, though, that you would butt into this discussion, if you think that the topic sucks.

26 posted on 04/13/2012 10:19:35 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Cronos; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
According to the Vatican's Central Office of Church Statistics, there were more than 5,000 more Catholic priests world-wide in 2009 than there were in 1999. This is welcome news for a growing Catholic population that has suffered through a real shortage of priests.
27 posted on 04/13/2012 3:00:25 PM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, I love your links! ;-0)


28 posted on 04/13/2012 7:37:42 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, I love your links! ;-0)


29 posted on 04/13/2012 7:38:05 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

ROTFL!!


30 posted on 04/13/2012 8:02:32 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Salvation

This is good news and good numbers, but to challenge anyone who points out the homosexual problem in the catholic seminaries and by extension the pool of American priests is disingenuous.

What is the nickname for St. Mary’s seminary in Baltimore? Are the interviews at Notre Dame seminary New Orleans looking for only orthodox applications? Will a seminary application be psychologically vetted for orthodoxy in all (if not most) American diocese?

Pope Benedict knows better, as evidenced by the Vatican’s investigations.


31 posted on 04/13/2012 8:44:39 PM PDT by WhoHuhWhat
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I like this one too...


32 posted on 04/14/2012 10:21:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: WhoHuhWhat

>>but to challenge anyone who points out the homosexual problem in the catholic seminaries and by extension the pool of American priests is disingenuous.<<

To put credence into a comment alluding to all candidates being homosexual is ludicrous.

Broad brush.


33 posted on 04/14/2012 10:24:07 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Salvation

Thanks for the links


34 posted on 04/14/2012 8:15:37 PM PDT by STJPII
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I don’t get it. Was it agreeing with my promoting conservative Catholics to fight, fight, fight?


35 posted on 04/15/2012 10:26:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Romney is a Mormon Bishop, as was his father, his uncle was in line to be the Mormon Prophet. Pope))
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To: ansel12

Tha cute little baby is evidently a conservative Catholic. Love ‘im!


36 posted on 04/16/2012 6:19:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: miss marmelstein

Thank you for the heads up,I’ll look for it.


37 posted on 08/17/2013 4:28:44 PM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Cronos
**Most Rev. Fabian Bruskewitz. He made national news in 1996 when he stated that members of dissident Catholic groups including Call to Action and Catholics for Choice had automatically excommunicated themselves from the church.**

 


38 posted on 08/17/2013 4:36:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Nice title but old thread.


39 posted on 08/17/2013 4:38:24 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: CalvaryJohn
I don't think that all the news has gotten to you. Are you aware of the inspections that were done at the seminaries from teams sent by Pope Benedict?

Seminarians now have to undergo a two day pscyhological exam, be interviewed numerous times, have family members and acquaintances interviewed, have written documentation that they are a practicing Catholic in good standing from their pastor -- and on and on.

Yes, seminaries were in bad shape because of bad leadership on diocesan levels, but even the new Bishops are good ones! Read on"

Spanish Olympic athlete to enter seminary after London games
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U.S. seminary confronts abortion mill head-on through weekly prayer invasion
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Boom Time for Westminster Seminaries [UK]
Young Catholics Hear Call to Serve
US Dominican Province Welcomes Its Biggest Class of Novices in Decades
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More twins (enter priesthood)
Cardinal Arinze - "Youth will embrace religious life with right role models"
Today's seminarians reflect growing trend
Number of Seminarians Increases - Please Decipher This!!!!
In Seminaries, New Ways for a New Generation
Seminary Springtime: Father Darrin Connall s Big Success
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Pope to Church: Risky Seminarians Must Go
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U.S. Priests and seminarians survey: more vocations in orthodox dioceses
Vatican Announces Surge in Seminaries during JPII Pontificate

Seminary Reform Needed in Wake of Sex Abuse Study ["the crisis in the Church is ... homosexuality"]
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Priests 'In Orgy' at Seminary
Bishop urges gay ban in clergy; presses for overhaul in screening priests
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Seminarians Show Support For Celibacy
556 Reasons for Hope [Seminarians Support Celibacy]
No Shortage of Vocations From Conservative Parishes
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Phoenix bishop to helm Priestly Formation Committee [of USCCB]
Vatican Firms up Plans for U.S. Seminary Visitation in 2005
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Catholic priests demand the right to marry
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New Priests in U.S.: Older, and More >From Abroad (Survey Tracks Trends Since 1998)
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POPE APPROVES BARRING GAY SEMINARIANS
Pope bans homosexuals from ordination as priests
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New Vatican Rule Said to Bar Gays as New Priests (ABOUT TIME)
VATICAN: HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT TO BE ORDAINED AS CATHOLIC PRIESTS
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Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays
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40 posted on 08/17/2013 4:40:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

That isn’t coming up for me.


41 posted on 08/17/2013 4:44:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: CalvaryJohn
Where did you get the impression that they have "queers standing in line"? Can you give us numbers, a source, a quote, a link, or is it just something whispered in your ear from je ne sais quoi?
42 posted on 08/17/2013 6:27:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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To: Salvation
My pic just pffffft, disappeared. I don't know why.

Evil spirits attack Catholic babies!

Catholic babies fight back!

43 posted on 08/17/2013 6:47:30 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: Salvation
Actually, it's the Dragon Baby Video!


44 posted on 08/17/2013 6:58:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

LOL!


45 posted on 08/17/2013 7:50:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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