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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

That’s good. Amsterdam needs missionaries. I’ve also read that in rural Holland, there is more conservative vestiges of their Dutch Reformed past.


10 posted on 05/03/2012 7:19:36 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

I think that much of the popular rejection of religion in Europe can be laid at the feet of the bad idea of combining religion and government.

For a long time, government and religious leaders thought it was a great idea, both expanding the power of government and the church into the lives of people. Yet from the people’s point of view, the only thing worse than a bureaucrat was a priest-bureaucrat.

It really soured people on the whole idea of religion.

A lot of the US Declaration of Independence and Constitution was based in rejection of this nasty church-state business in favor of democracy. I like to point out that “We the people...” is a rejection of the European “We are kings and princes because God wants us to be and ordained us as such. If you reject that, you reject God.”

Europe still has a lot of this “nobility-elitism” attitude, and Americans for the most part still sneer at it.


12 posted on 05/04/2012 6:49:55 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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