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Vatican considers making JPII a saint in 2015
Catholic Church Conservation ^ | 11 May 2012 | Cathcon

Posted on 05/11/2012 6:18:19 AM PDT by Gillibrand

Polish newspaper reporting that JPII may be canonised at WJD in Krakow in 2015

(Excerpt) Read more at cathcon.blogspot.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Worship
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; pope; vatican
On the way to sainthood.
1 posted on 05/11/2012 6:18:28 AM PDT by Gillibrand
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To: Gillibrand

A Communist saint is an oxymoron.


2 posted on 05/11/2012 6:21:49 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Gillibrand
WJD

WYD

3 posted on 05/11/2012 6:21:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Gillibrand
Mormons won't like that.

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4 posted on 05/11/2012 6:24:35 AM PDT by ansel12 ( Obama, Romney,"Eurasia" "Eastasia" "Oceania" I can't keep up with the players anymore.)
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To: Gillibrand
The Novus Ordo Church can state that JPII is a saint, but like his predecessors back to Pope Pius XII, he failed to do the right thing and is highly unworthy to be considered a saint.

He could have reversed the evil that created an entirely new humanistic religion, yet he failed to do so as did his predecessors.

Standing before the throne of God and attempting to explain their failure would be an embarrassment to the beholder.

5 posted on 05/11/2012 6:29:34 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Gillibrand
On the way to sainthood.

Two truly great men, proving that with God on your side, you can do anything. Even destroying the Soviet union. Pope and Reagan

We need more great men to finish the job, and destroy communism.

6 posted on 05/11/2012 6:36:20 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: RoadTest

John Paul II was anything but a communist.


7 posted on 05/11/2012 6:38:03 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: RoadTest
Communist?

I must have missed that part of his tenure, or my mind is going.

He did crack down on clergy-driven "Liberation Theology", at least in South America.

He forbid the clergy from holding public office. (Pity he didn't crack down on Catholic schools hiring such discards - i.e., Drinan of the pro-abortion stance...)

IMO, he was not in any way "Saintly" for his abysmal ethical, moral and probably criminal failure to address the pedophilia issue among priests.

One could probably argue that he lost some mental acuity from the assassination attempt.

Still, I do have a problem rewarding him when he atrociously neglected some of the most vulnerable of his "flock".

8 posted on 05/11/2012 6:43:30 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Gillibrand

JPII should not be considered for Sainthood since he did nothing to protect Children from the Horrors of the Catholic Holocaust of our children by Homosexual Priests.

There were books written including one book by Father Cozzens stating that between 20 to 50 % of practicing Catholics Priests in the US are Homosexual.
This book was printed around the outing of the Phediphile
outing around 2001.
Both JPII and Bene XVI KNEW, and did nothing..


9 posted on 05/11/2012 7:06:25 AM PDT by chatham
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To: Gillibrand

Looking forward to it.


10 posted on 05/11/2012 7:14:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Skip the election and let Thomas Sowell choose the next President.)
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To: Gillibrand

All Christians are addressed as saints in Holy Scripture- not just a few.

Either he was a true believer and a saint- or he wasn’t a true believer and was not a saint.

Too late to alter that now, either way.


11 posted on 05/11/2012 7:23:42 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Oh give it up. Simply semantics. This isn’t the time nor the place for an argument about the proper use of the title “saint.” It’s obvious to anyone with any sense a grain of education that the Greek term in the NT simply means “holy ones.” The same term (or the Latin equivalent) has also come to be used as a title. Not a big deal nor a bone of contention for anyone other than those looking for a pointless argument over word usage.

It’s not “either,” “or”; it is “both,” “and.”


12 posted on 05/11/2012 8:59:20 AM PDT by DogwoodSouth
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To: FatherofFive

I’m not Catholic, and I consider both of those men to be saints.

Along with Margaret Thatcher.


13 posted on 05/11/2012 9:00:45 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
Along with Margaret Thatcher.

I wish I had a picture of the three of them together. The grand Lady Thatcher was part of the trio that brought down the Soviet Union.

We need such leaders today.

14 posted on 05/11/2012 9:19:44 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Someone as astute as you probably sees no difference between the common priesthood of the believer and the ministerial Priesthood of the ordained either.


15 posted on 05/11/2012 10:19:27 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: DogwoodSouth

“The same term (or the Latin equivalent) has also come to be used as a title. Not a big deal nor a bone of contention for anyone other than those looking for a pointless argument over word usage.”

The first usage, “holy ones”, applied to all believers, is Biblical - inspired by God.
The second, “come to be used”, is man-made.

To you that may be a pointless distinction. No problem. I disagree.


16 posted on 05/11/2012 11:32:55 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

“Someone as astute as you probably sees no difference between the common priesthood of the believer and the ministerial Priesthood of the ordained either.”

I am not astute. I can read.

There is a universal priesthood of every believer.

There are also elders & deacons as positions in the Church.

There is no office of “ministerial priest” in the New Testament.


17 posted on 05/11/2012 11:35:54 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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