How many here think it’s a clear cut sin not to reject the old earth theories outright?
Is thinking or analyzing or measuring things a sin?
—How many here think its a clear cut sin not to reject the old earth theories outright?—
I don’t. I’ve read the Genesis account in Hebrew and there is room to interpret the six days a multitude of ways. That said, I like to ask people, “If you could go back in time and meet Adam one day after he was created, based on his appearance how old would you guess that he is?
Same with the earth and the heavens.
The fact that we are alive is a sin, move on to Grace, something that is really important.
I don’t think you’re supposed to consider “old Earth” theories separately. It interferes with the conflation.
I have no trouble accepting the idea of an earth millions of years old but that cannot be equated with accepting the notions of evolution.
“In the beginning” has no time associated with it.
I wade in here to say that I believe that the 6,000 to 10,000 year old earth/universe theory is as incorrect as the theory of evolution.
In the beginning God...that we probably can mostly agree is correct. Genesis 1:1 says, ‘In the beginning God created the the heaven and the earth.’
So when was that ‘beginning’? Probably ‘eons’ ago. I believe the Genesis ‘six day’ creation account, was as it reads, and was probably about 6,000 years ago. But the earth and heaven was already in existance.
We are told that before the ‘Fall’, when Satan (Lucifer) and his angels were cast out of heaven, Lucifer had been given dominion over the earth. The ‘Fall’ preceeds the Genesis account of creation. Therefore the earth and heaven also preceed the Genesis account of creation.
So Lucifer had dominion over the earth...over just a planet floating in space? No, there were creatures here too. There was a creation here before the Genesis creation. Fossil evidence supports this. The ‘Neandrathals’ were of that earlier creation...a creation destroyed by ‘flood’ at the time of the ‘Fall’. No missing link...there never was a link. That is all a part of the evolutionary pipe dream. That first creation was subject to Lucifer, who had been given dominion over the earth (and it’s inhabitants).
In Genesis 1:2 ‘And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.’
This was chaos...God did not create chaos...all of the six creation days are restorative.
In Genesis 1:26 ‘ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.’
God gave man dominion over the earth. Lucifer was long gone, and no longer had dominion over the earth. God gave this to man.
In Genesis 1:28, ‘And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.’
Note, God told them to be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH the earth. This is the same instruction God gave to Noah after the flood...REPLENISH the earth.
We easily understand why Noah was told to REPLENISH the earth...only if the earth had been ‘PLENISHED’ in an earlier creation would God instruct Man (Adam) to REPLENISH the earth.
So, how long between creations was the earth in chaos? We do not know...not really necessary to know that. It could have been many milleniums. Eons, if you will.
After the Flood, God placed a rainbow in the sky as promise to never destroy the earth by flood again. This was after he had done it now two times. We know he will not do it a third time.
I could go on, but you get the idea. So have fun and flame away!
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“How many here think its a clear cut sin not to reject the old earth theories outright?”
‘Old Earth?’ - there is no conflict in believing that the earth/universe might be ‘eons’ old, created by God, but long before the Genesis account of the creation of Man, about 6,000 years ago.
And the concept of a previous creation on earth, supported by the Word of God (Bible) provides explanation for fossil evidence that the ‘evolvers’ like to say ‘proves’ evolution.