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Evangelicals Becoming Catholic, why?
CatholicConvert.com ^ | May 10, 2011 | Steve Ray

Posted on 05/17/2012 4:18:46 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

-—year ago, Karl Keating of Catholic Answers Live said he believed there were now more Evangelicals or Fundamentalists leaving Protestantism to become Catholic than the other way around.-—

Glad to hear it. Bookmarking.


141 posted on 05/18/2012 3:22:37 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (hViva Christo Rey!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“I know as many, probably more, divorced-and-remarried Catholics as I do protestants.”

I probably do, too; the article was about Catholics who join another denomination. Many divorced-and-remarried Catholics don’t even bother.


142 posted on 05/18/2012 3:23:59 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: johngrace
Especially when I see the priest using the incense with the priest offering the bread above his head looking above. Also along the reasoning is also there was only one temple for offerings in the old testament.

You don't mean the temple where the curtain was cut in half allowing the people direct access to God, without a priest, do you???

And you certainly don't mean the temple that replaced the OT temple, the body of the believer, do you???



143 posted on 05/18/2012 3:36:17 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Scoutdad

“We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately.” — Benjamin Franklin

This quote came to mind as I read your post, as the worldly forces of an immoral society, corrupt and immoral politicians, and the evils of the muslim religion attacking Christians everywhere.


144 posted on 05/18/2012 3:38:13 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: daniel1212

-—know it. The reality is that while the vast majority of western RCs are liberal, and become conservative if they join evangelical churches.——

Regular mass attendance is the divider between conservative and liberal Catholics.

I’ve observed that many good Catholics switch to Evangelical churches for good reasons. They don’t know why they’re in church. They’re looking for an active community. But this is a function of poor catechesis. Ministries like EWTN and Catholic Answers appear to be filling the gap.


145 posted on 05/18/2012 3:40:27 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (hViva Christo Rey!)
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To: Iscool

Iscool!! He is alive!!


146 posted on 05/18/2012 3:50:26 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: murron
My sister was married outside of the Church 25 years ago, and she and her husband, who is not Catholic, both attend Mass every Sunday without fail.

Why would they???  You're religion teaches that without eating the wafer, there is no eternal life...Why waste their time???

147 posted on 05/18/2012 3:55:35 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: MarkBsnr
I believe that Paul was a great bishop of the Church and largely responsible for selling the Church to the Greeks and bringing Jews into the fold.

I don't believe Paul sold anything...He preached the words of God, with God's power...

148 posted on 05/18/2012 4:04:55 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool
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If this picture means cool what does your "is cool" mean?

149 posted on 05/18/2012 4:05:31 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: daniel1212

“Unlike your your SSPX brethren, i do doctrinally hold that the sign gifts have not ceased, that God can do as He ever did, but that such claims are subject to testing by Scripture, which reproves Rome, while your own brethren have question you.”

~ ~ ~

Please be specific or put my words in quotes.

Are you talking about disbelief in private revelation? It never works rejecting Catholicism by using the Church and her writings and now, your using Catholics themselves.

Catholics can believe or not believe private revelation.
When the private revelation has been officially condemned,
then no. The Church is prudent, because of our times and so
many messages from Heaven, we don’t know yet their decision
on many of them, the messages to Cletus and Verne are among them. Realize, the major divine “events” prophesied haven’t taken place yet.

You don’t accept the message about the end time so you’re rejecting it. If you took the time...look at the link, God Speaks Will You Listen is full of Scripture reference to confirm what the messages say.

Read the footnote on the verse you mentioned. There was
no Gospel yet when Paul was speaking to Timothy.

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice.

[16] All scripture,: Every part of divine scripture is certainly profitable for all these ends. But, if we would have the whole rule of Christian faith and practice, we must not be content with those Scriptures, which Timothy knew from his infancy, that is, with the Old Testament alone: nor yet with the New Testament, without taking along with it the traditions of the apostles, and the interpretation of the church, to which the apostles delivered both the book, and the true meaning of it.

http://www.drbo.org/


150 posted on 05/18/2012 4:48:35 PM PDT by stpio
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To: MarkBsnr

Been there. I think there are probably quite a few of us, and I know we are forgiven.

Don’t hang onto your guilt, as it will eat at you. He knows what is in your heart.


151 posted on 05/18/2012 5:26:22 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Actually, i do not think any of the Divinely inspired writing needed editing except for correcting manifest errors in transmission. If i was doing the writing, well, that would be a different story!


152 posted on 05/18/2012 6:08:23 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

To willing hearers. however the actual data we have for the Americas has continually shown the opposite, as shown in this thread, while discounting immigration, both faiths are losing ground to “Nones,” Islam and Mormonism.


153 posted on 05/18/2012 6:12:35 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

See post http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2885062/posts?page=35#35 and search “weekly” (Ctrl+F) in compilation here: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html


154 posted on 05/18/2012 6:24:23 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: stpio

I will pray for you.


155 posted on 05/18/2012 6:28:17 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: MayflowerMadam
All denominations have their ideal standards; few members follow them 100%.

That's rather an ironic statement, given your screen name.

Cheers!

156 posted on 05/18/2012 7:03:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ansel12
"a reasonable guess is that they would have gone more than 54% for Obama,..."

Obama got 69.5 million votes, only 12 million of which were from Catholics. That means he got 57.5 million votes from non-Catholics representing a nearly 4:1 edge. Maybe you ought to look beyond your prejudices to see exactly who elected him.

Peace be with you.

157 posted on 05/18/2012 7:32:26 PM PDT by Natural Law (Mary was the face that God chose for Himself.)
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To: Natural Law

Being prejudiced would cause a conservative to start creatively trying to defend and defensively explain away and keep away from examination, a large liberal voting block, to end discussing that vote or even republicans and conservatives becoming aware of it, on a forum of politically active conservatives currently involved in campaigns, and in an election cycle.


158 posted on 05/18/2012 7:45:00 PM PDT by ansel12 (When immutable definition of Bible marriage of One Man, One Woman, is in jeopardy, call the Mormon.)
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To: Natural Law; ansel12
These are old numbers, but everyone's support for Obama is down.

50 percent of Catholics (Catholics make up about 22 percent of the U.S. population.) approve of his presidency, down from 67 percent in his first six months in office.
DOWN 17 POINTS
 
among non-Catholic Christians, who make up 55 percent of the U.S. population, had fallen from 58 percent to 43 percent.
DOWN 15 POINTS
 
Mormon respondents, who represent about two percent of U.S. adults, fell from 43 percent to 26 percent
DOWN 17 POINTS
 
About 78 percent of Muslim respondents approved of the Obama presidency, down eight percentage points from when the question was first asked.  (86)
DOWN 8 POINTS
 
atheists, agnostics, and members of other non-Christian religions, who comprise about 13 percent of the U.S. population -- While about 75 percent of these respondents approved of President Obama at the start of his term, their approval declined to about 64 percent.
DOWN 11 POINTS
 
Jews were the religious group third likeliest to approve of President Obama, giving him 61 percent approval. This too is a decline: in January-June 2009, their approval rating of the president was 77 percent.
DOWN 16 POINTS
 
Overall, 48 percent of Americans approve of President Obama’s job, down from 63 percent in the first months of his presidency. Gallup claims that its survey of over 276,000 adults claims an overall margin of error of plus or minus one percent.
DOWN 15 POINTS


 
 
 
 

159 posted on 05/18/2012 7:48:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ansel12
"Being prejudiced would cause a conservative to start creatively trying to defend and defensively explain away and keep away from examination,..."

You are right. Since Catholics, or alleged Catholics, only contributed 17% of Obama's vote there must be another reason you have spent so much time and effort trying to prove your point.

Peace and blessings.

160 posted on 05/18/2012 7:55:26 PM PDT by Natural Law (Mary was the face that God chose for Himself.)
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