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Poll: Nearly half of America is creationist
Hotair ^ | 06/02/2012 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 06/02/2012 8:14:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: varmintman
varmintman: "Mind telling us what your motive is in all of this?"

The same "motive" as in every post I've ever made on Free Republic: to defend the truth, as best I can.

And your "motive" is what, exactly?

41 posted on 06/06/2012 9:50:13 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

To spread the truth, and assist others in seeing through the ideological doctrine of evolution and the faulty science which backs it, including the idea that humans and hominids are related, which they clearly aren’t.


42 posted on 06/06/2012 9:59:03 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: varmintman
Cro Magnons in ice age times, and then the Bible antediluvians starting with Adam and Eve. The two groups are genetically identical or close enough to ignore any differences, but the cultures and technologies were so totally different as to prevent believing that the one group could be descended from the other.

Nonsense. The technological and artistic differences between Cro-Magnon and early Homo Sapien, and indeed, some current primitive cultures are so similar as to be indistinguishable. What's more, Cro-Magnoids still exist to this day in Easter island and their more archaic Palaeo-Atlantid versions in Sweden and Ireland.

43 posted on 06/06/2012 10:28:43 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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Coreection: Canary Islands, not Easter Island.


44 posted on 06/06/2012 10:33:07 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Man evolved over a period of millions of years from lower primates, but this was all precisely how God designed the universe to unfold.”

Creationists seem to have a big problem with randomness in nature - as if the power of God stops at the Casino door. The Bible says “The dice are cast into the lap, but every result is from the Lord.”

As to being created from “dust” - The Bible says that I also was created “from dust” and that “to dust” I will return; but I was also created via a natural process involving DNA.

Was my creation “from dust” less literal than the creation of Adam “from dust”?


45 posted on 06/06/2012 10:39:11 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Sirius Lee
There is a list of things which the Bible and Jewish literature would have to know about if you wanted to believe that Adam and Eve were descended From Cro Magnons and which the Bible and Midrashim appear to know nothing about:

Likewise there is no version of anything which puts the metal ages prior to four or five thousand years ago which is ballpark for Adam and Eve and their descendants arriving on the scene.

46 posted on 06/06/2012 11:07:44 AM PDT by varmintman
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varmintman: "To spread the truth, and assist others in seeing through the ideological doctrine of evolution and the faulty science which backs it..."

"Faulty science" you can't demonstrate because first you obviously know nothing about real science, and second you are just as obviously driven by your own non-scientific ideological doctrine, FRiend.

Further, you'll never accomplish your goal by posting obviously faked drawings of Neanderthals, drawings which any idiot -- such as me -- can see are grossly wrong in color, nose shape, eye size, stance and attitude.
Here again are the best reconstructions based on scientific evidence:

varmintman's closest ever attempt at honest representation:

All you'd have to do with this picture is eliminate the "bug eyes" and grossly flared nostrils, and you pretty much have it:

47 posted on 06/06/2012 1:48:36 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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There is a list of things which the Bible and Jewish literature would have to know about if you wanted to believe that Adam and Eve were descended From Cro Magnons and which the Bible and Midrashim appear to know nothing about:

I don't want to hurt your feelings but the Bible does not mention a lot of things which nevertheless exist and existed.

And as far as no version of anything which puts the metal ages prior to four or five thousand years ago

Metallurgy was know to the neolithics of Catal Hoyuk as far back as 7,500 BC. Heck, nearby Gobekli Tepe dates back to 10,000 BC - double the antiquity you erroneously ascribe to the Adam and Eve story, unless you think Martians built it. But the Bible doesn't mention Martians either.

And of course you have Cro Magnon depicted what are now extinct cave bears, wooly rhinos and mammoths 25,000 year ago with a degree of skill that surpasses most of the "art" you find in contemporary primitive "descendants of Adam and Eve" cultures and what you typically find at MOMA.

BTW Stone tools. Adam and Eve and their descendants were metal-tech people from day one.

There is no mention in the Bible of metal before the birth of Cain's sons. Therefore, according to your own rules, it didn't exist on day one as you opined. But I'll let you in on a little secret. Metallurgy has been around for nearly ten thousand years, and whether it's on your list of things to know about or not is inconsequential.

48 posted on 06/06/2012 3:31:15 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode or Evil, that's the choice.)
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All of the dating schemes you seem to believe in are based on assumptions, mainly that natural isotope ratios have always been as they are now, which go out the window the first time you admit to any sort of a global disaster like the flood at the time of Noah. Standard dating schemes have Cro Magnons dating from around 45K years ago but all we can be reasonably sure of is that they predate the people of the Bible.


49 posted on 06/06/2012 7:45:58 PM PDT by varmintman
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