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To: ansel12; Mach9
Balderdash, it wasn't just a "protestant creation".

If one considers just Founding Fathers then There were no Baptists among the Founding Fathers --> there were

  1. Church of England/Episcopalian: 28
  2. Presbyterian: 8
  3. Congregationalists: 8
  4. Lutherans: 2
  5. Dutch Reformed: 2
  6. Methodists: 2
  7. Catholics: 3 (C. Caroll, D. Caroll & Fitzsimons)
  8. Deists: 7 (including Thomas Jefferson
So perhaps since there were no Baptists, should one consider as per your statement that they did not create this nation?

Furthermore, there were 3 Catholics and


51 posted on 06/14/2012 2:34:31 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

I envy your quick recall of FACTS! I did mention Maryland, and certainly don’t claim that the U. S. was an exclusively protestant creation.

You remind me of others: add Baron Von Steuben (honored in Ohio) to the Revolution’s Catholics and convert (St.) Elizabeth Bailey Seton as the founder of the country’s first free (and Catholic) schools.

It occurs to me, too, that “America” (i.e., the entire western hemisphere) itself is named for a Catholic and the USA capital’s name is shared by a Catholic. And, of course, the fact that the founders had somewhere to “found” rests exclusively on the discoveries of Catholic or preReformation Christian explorers. This extends the argument a bit but it certainly ought to carry some weight.


72 posted on 06/14/2012 8:03:40 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Cronos
Charles Carroll, founding father and "an exemplar of Catholic and republican virtue" [Ecumenical]

77 posted on 06/14/2012 8:47:46 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Cronos

I know that we have a hand full of Catholic, America haters here who are determined to rewrite American history and the Protestant creation of the greatest nation that has ever existed but I don’t see wasting time with them today.

Learning about those America haters was one of the great shocks to me when I started reading FR, I had never known that the element existed, at least not among the minority of Catholics who are not full fledged liberals.


81 posted on 06/14/2012 9:37:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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