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To: Notwithstanding
Yes, it would have. Thanks for the correction.

Yet, I don't see how one could sign complete agreement with and submission to both the First and Second Vatican Councils without seeing conflicts between the two of them.

I reference this book:

Ecumenical Vatican Council II: A Much Needed Discussion By Msgr. Brunero Gherardini

I understand the requested doctrinal preamble to be signed by the SSPX is a secret at this time; and I wonder why that is so.

In the past, people formally admitted to the Catholic Church make a public profession of faith, not a secret one to be revealed after the fact.

15 posted on 06/18/2012 7:17:49 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

A secret? Really?

Private negotiations are private - and rightly so. This is a private negotiation.

Why do you cloak this in language of “secret” doctrinal formula?

OT contradicts NT, Matthew contradicts Luke, V1 contradicts V2, etc.
Just because you CAN choose to find contradiction does not mean that the contents cannot all be reconciled.

Why is your approach one that focuses on seeing contradiction when the Church herself demands by her authority that we see that V1 and V2 are NOT contradictory (and such an interpretation is rational)?


16 posted on 06/18/2012 7:39:40 PM PDT by Notwithstanding (Christ Jesus Victor, Ruler, Lord and Redeemer!)
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