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To: jesus4life
What is actually “ Rock bottom or failure”?? It’s all an opinion and a judgment because only GOD knows what the finality of each and every person will be.

Rock bottom or failure for alcoholics is when they lose their job, house, family, etc and end up living on the streets, eventually dying in a ditch somewhere of liver failure. When you see someone on that path, if you care about them, you will tell them to get off that path.

I used alcoholism as an analogy for seeing someone on the wrong path with regards to God. Watching someone engage in behaviors and adopting attitudes that will result in damnation demands that, if you care about them, you will SAY SOMETHING. All of this "who are we to judge?" stuff is nothing but anti-Christian BS spewed by people who want to remove any resistance to evil. They want you to believe that the Christian thing to do is to sit back and watch someone destroy himself.

The Mary Magdelena example is a false analogy to what we are talking about. Jesus did not send the people away for recognizing Magdelena's sin - He sent them away for passing judgment on her, as in, they were going to execute her by stoning. That is a far cry from concerned people of God counseling her to change her ways. We don't get to say who is going to heaven or hell - only God does. But we can counsel people who are going against the Word of God that they are screwing up and should change their ways. In fact, that is OUR DUTY. Failing to do so because "who are we to judge" is an abdication of that duty and means that we are only lukewarm.
6 posted on 06/19/2012 5:11:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

You are one of the very few that did not reply back privately, as the WORD does order when having misunderstandings. But, I will answer you privately again. I pray you are obedient.

GOD BLESS US ALL,

Jesus4life


7 posted on 06/19/2012 11:23:04 PM PDT by jesus4life
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