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To: will of the people

“I would love to; but I don’t have ‘Spurgeon’s Lectures’ in my Bible,”

Spurgeon is often cited; because he is really very good. Also he is a famous Baptist who was also Calvinist in his theology.

But it is entirely possible to reason about man’s depravity, God’s election of us, Christ’s atonement, the irresistability of God’s grace, and God’s preserving His people without citing Spurgeon.


34 posted on 06/21/2012 10:45:11 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
God’s election of us

This is not subject to reason. Implicit in the "election" is the "unelection". That is, while some are "elected" or chosen, others are ignored and left to damnation.

The key to getting out of the grip of this infernal doctrine lies precisely in this point. Instead of thinking of yourself as among the "elect", spend a day thinking about yourself as among the "unelect" and then reflect on what this says about the nature of God. Hopefully you will see an arbitrariness, an irrationality, a brutality and essentially a game of nothing more than chance as God surveys the filth which is before him and simply plucks out at random a few lucky survivors who will man the life boats, while the rest of the wretches are left to drown.

Is there a shortage of lifeboats? Is space limited in heaven? No? So what's the issue here? Mere whimsy or capriciousness on the part of God? This simply does not square with the loving Jesus of the New Testament who expressed love for all men. The Apostle says that "God is love".

Irrationality is a characteristic of pagan worship. Who knows what the gods will do? They get crazy sometimes!!

That's not Christianity. We do know what God will do with regard to our salvation.

37 posted on 06/21/2012 11:16:22 AM PDT by marshmallow (.)
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