Investigate Radical Christianity!

PJ Media ^ | June 25, 2012 | Robert Spencer

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During last week’s House Homeland Security Committee hearing on “The Radicalization of Muslim-Americans,” Congressman Al Green (D-TX) took issue ^[1] with the hearing’s focus on Islam and Muslims, asking the witnesses testifying before the Committee: “If you agree that radicalization exists within all religions to some extent, would you kindly extend a hand into the air.” Noting triumphantly that “all the hands are raised,” Green then asked: “Why not have a hearing on the radicalization of Christians?”

The immediate answer is obvious. On the one hand we have recent jihad plotters in the U.S., including Naser Abdo, the would-be second Fort Hood jihad mass murderer; Khalid Aldawsari, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Lubbock, Texas; Muhammad Hussain, the would-be jihad bomber in Baltimore; Mohamed Mohamud, the would-be jihad bomber in Portland; Nidal Hasan, the successful Fort Hood jihad mass-murderer; Faisal Shahzad, the would-be Times Square jihad mass-murderer; Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, the Arkansas military recruiting station jihad murderer; Naveed Haq, the jihad mass murderer at the Jewish Community Center in Seattle; Mohammed Reza Taheri-Azar, the would-be jihad mass murderer in Chapel Hill, North Carolina; Ahmed Ferhani and Mohamed Mamdouh, who hatched a jihad plot to blow up a Manhattan synagogue; and Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the would-be Christmas airplane jihad bomber.

All of them and many others invoked the Qur’an and Sunnah to explain and justify their deeds.

And on the other hand, we have recent “radical Christian” acts of violence committed by people who invoked the Bible and Church teaching to explain and justify their deeds, including — no one at all. Not one. Even the much-vaunted abortion clinic bombers number only a handful, versus nearly 19,000 jihad attacks around the world since 9/11, and have been repudiated by all Christian sects and leaders — as opposed to the many Islamic authorities that teach jihad warfare against unbelievers and exhort their faithful to commit acts of violent jihad.

Rosie O’Donnell enunciated the idea memorably a few years ago: “radical Christianity is just as dangerous as radical Islam.” Since then, this has become a commonplace of mainstream media political discourse — remarkably enough, since it has absolutely no evidence to back it up.

Emblematic of how hard it is to find a “radical Christian” — that is, someone driven to violence by the teachings of Christianity, as opposed to genuinely radical Christians like Mother Teresa and the Amish — is that when Green spoke about “the radicalization of Christianity,” he was actually referring to Islamic jihadists, not to Christians at all.

This became clear when he said: “I do not, not — N-O-T — oppose hearings on radicalization. I do oppose hearings that don’t focus on the entirety of radicalization. And if you agree that we have Christians, as has been mentioned by more than one member, Christians who become radicalized, they become part of Islam and they become radicalized as is being said, why not have a hearing on the radicalization of Christians?”

Green’s statement is fundamentally incoherent. “Christians who become radicalized” and “become part of Islam” are not Christians at all, but converts to Islam. Thus a hearing on the radicalization of Muslims, and possibly of converts to Islam, would be needed, not a hearing on the radicalization of Christians. Green himself made this clear, after a fashion, as he continued, digging himself an ever-deeper hole: “I do think that it is a problem of perception. People who see the hearings and never hear about the hearing on the radicalization of Christianity have to ask themselves, ‘Why is this missing?’ Why don’t we go to the next step and ask, how is that a blue-eyed, blonde-haired, white female in the United States of America can become radicalized to the point of wanting to do harm to this country? We don’t have that type of hearing. That’s the problem.”

Green was apparently referring to Colleen LaRose, aka “Jihad Jane ^[2],” a convert to Islam from Pennsylvania who plotted to murder a Swedish cartoonist, Lars Vilks, for drawing a cartoon of the Muslim prophet Muhammad. If LaRose had remained a Christian, of course, she never would have been moved to kill by a cartoon of Muhammad; her crime has nothing to do with Christianity and everything to do with Islam. And so here again, the moral equivalence that Rosie O’Donnell stated baldly and that Green was apparently reaching for founders on the facts.

Yet Green soldiered on, concluding: “I do know what it feels like to look like a Muslim in the minds of some people and to be demeaned in a public venue. I look forward to the day that we’ll have that hearing that deals with the radicalization of Christians in America.”

So do I, in fact. Investigate radical Christianity! If such a hearing were held with any degree of honesty, it couldn’t help but shed light on the fact that Islam has a unique capacity to incite its adherents to violence today, in a way that neither Christianity nor any other religion shares. And that realization, contrary as it is to official government and media assumptions, could go a long way toward focusing law enforcement upon the real problem the nation faces today, instead of upon politically correct fictions. Much as that prospect may infuriate Congressman Al Green.

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One wonders what Mitt Romney's comment would be (if he were to make one) on this argument by Green given the mormon church's historic denigration of all things Christian, and the admiration of of islam by the mormon university, BYU as noted below:

I suggest that readers investigate "Islamic Translation Series" in the BYU "Middle Eastern Texts Initiative".

Link Here

Islamic Translation Series (ITS)

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The Islamic Translation Series is designed not only to further scholarship in the study of Islamic philosophy, theology, and mysticism, but, by encouraging the translation of Islamic texts into the technical language of contemporary Western scholarship, to assist in the integration of Islamic studies into Western academia and to promote global perspectives in the disciplines to which it is devoted. Islamic civilization represents nearly fourteen centuries of intense intellectual activity, and believers in Islam number in the hundreds of millions. The texts that will appear in ITS are among the treasures of this great culture. But they are more than that. They are properly the inheritance of all the peoples of the world. Brigham Young University and its Institute for the Study and Preservation of Ancient Religious Texts are pleased to sponsor the Islamic Translation Series. In doing so, we hope to serve our fellow human beings, of all creeds and cultures.

The texts that appear in this series are among the cultural treasures of the world, representing as they do the medieval efflorescence of Arabic-Islamic civilization-a civilization in which works of impressive intellectual stature were composed not only by Muslims but also by Christians, Jews, and others in a quest for knowledge that transcended religious and ethnic boundaries. Together they not only preserved the best of Greek thought but enhanced it, added to it, and built upon it a corpus of scientific and philosophical understanding that is properly the inheritance of all the peoples of the world.

[2ndDivisionVet]

[a fool in paradise]

I’d say that much tragedy could have been avoided if the murderous Democrat Socialist connected Jim Jones cult had been investigated in the 1970s.

And Jeremiah Wright’s racist Marxist pro-terrorist church has given America it’s first racist, Marxist, pro-terrorist President.

Then there are the acts of torture and intimidation by the Scientologist religion that was first legally recognized by Bill Clinton’s administration...

Oh wait, Democrat connected crooks and bullies are OK.

[Cicero]

At first I thought he must be speaking ironically. But, no, he's not.

I looked him up at Wikipedia. Originally from New Orleans, and evidently a product of redistricting around the Houston area.

He was a leader of the Houston NAACP.

I don't know if he's a Muslim, but he sure has the beard for it.

[a fool in paradise]

Noting triumphantly that “all the hands are raised,” Green then asked: “Why not have a hearing on the radicalization of Christians?”

Why not have a Federal investigation of the radical atheists in the Occupy movement?

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Ping

[dead]

He looks like those Mexican wolf-man kids.

[formosa]

Not surprising words with an illegal muslim in the White House.

[a fool in paradise]

Someone should remind Gene Green, Texas Democrat, that Bill Clinton waged a phony war on Christianity in the 1990s with a waste of resources and manpower looking into a non-existent rash of fires on black churches.

While he took his eye off the ball of Islamic terrorism, permitting the 9-11 hijackers to remain illegally in this country, training for their mission learning to fly, but not land, planes.

Dumbass.

[pallis]

The only radical (pseudo Christians) are the liberation theology churches operating in American cities. By all means, have hearing about them, and be prepared to prevent their violence. Start by investigating Obama.

[Elsie]

Remember folks:

America does NOT have a Political problem; but a Spiritual one.

Politics canNOT fix that!

"If my people...

[Conservative Vermont Vet]

Boy you HATE Mitt AND MORMONS are like the energizer bunny; y'all just won't stop in your efforts to TRY and turn those of us who know the TRUTH about how DANGEROUS and a THREAT to our SURVIVAL Dear Leader is.

Y'all can stand on your so called "Principles;" we Conservatives will not be deterred and will NOT stay home in Nov., but nice try.

One wonders what Mitt Romney's comment would be (if he were to make one) on this argument by Green given the mormon church's historic denigration of all things Christian, and the admiration of of islam by the mormon university, BYU as noted below:

One wonders what Barack Hussein Obama's comment would be (if he were to make one) on this argument advance by some of us of his pandering, appeasing, defending and supporting Islamic Jihadists and the Muslim Brotherhood, given his having PERSONALLY appointed MANY "true believing" Muslims who's "loyalties" do NOT lie with the US, but with the "Religion of Pieces" and Sharia?

Oh wait, he has "commented:"

“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.

When you or any of your "Compatriots" can come up with anything substantive which is tied DIRECTLY to Romney, come back and well talk.

[AllAmericanGirl44]

Amen!

[Elsie]

Your Mitt will turn out to be a false savior.

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Boy you HATE Mitt AND MORMONS are like the energizer bunny; y'all just won't stop in your efforts to TRY and turn those of us who know the TRUTH about how DANGEROUS and a THREAT to our SURVIVAL Dear Leader is.

See my tagline.

When you or any of your "Compatriots" can come up with anything substantive which is tied DIRECTLY to Romney, come back and well talk.

Mitt has stated that he stands by his faith 100%. THIS is what is happening with mormonism and islam.

1 - A LDS perspective on Muhammed (LDS.org)
http://www.lds.org/ensign/2000/08/a-latter-day-saint-perspective-on-muhammad?lang=eng

2 - U.S. Muslims share friendship, similar values with Mormons (LA Times, published in 2008)
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/apr/02/local/me-morlims2

3 - Mormonism and Islam: Commonality and Cooperation Between Abrahamic Faiths (March 10 & 11, 2011 - Utah Valley University)
http://www.uvu.edu/religiousstudies/mormonismandislam/

4 - Ask a Mormon: What do Mormons think of Muslims (March 2010 - MormonWoman.org)
http://mormonwoman.org/2010/03/15/ask-a-mormon-woman-what-do-mormons-think-about-islam/

5 - Mormons and Muslims break fast together (Ramadan 2010 - Deseret News)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705386347/Mormons-Muslims-break-the-fast-in-Southern-California.html

6 - Islamic Translation Service (Brigham Young University)
http://meti.byu.edu/islamic.php

7 - Muslims attending BYU focus on similarities between Islam, LDS tenets (Deseret News - Dec 2009)
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705353014/Muslims-attending-BYU-focus-on-similarities-between-Islam-LDS-tenets.html

Romney=Obama

[Religion Moderator]

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Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

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[stonehouse01]

Liberation theology churches frighten me!!

[boatbums]

Someone should remind Gene Green, Texas Democrat, that Bill Clinton waged a phony war on Christianity in the 1990s with a waste of resources and manpower looking into a non-existent rash of fires on black churches. While he took his eye off the ball of Islamic terrorism, permitting the 9-11 hijackers to remain illegally in this country, training for their mission learning to fly, but not land, planes. Dumbass.

With people like Green and Ms. Maxine Waters in the news lately, people are going to start thinking that's what the "D" stands for after their names.

[ejonesie22]

By “we Conservatives” do you mean those who have tossed reason out the door? Those who expect Romney to not stab conservatives in the back, to push an agenda B. Hussein would envy on a Republican Congress unwilling to go against the wishes of a sitting Republican President? An agenda that will give the Demonrats polices not even Obama himself could secure?

Sorry I find “Conservative” in this case to be a bit much...

But given everything it is a dying breed anyways, for I have seen what passes for “conservative” rhetoric on other sites now, and the left is laughing its butt off..